Jane Musson born 1852 Crich, derbyshire

[pansypetal]

I have been banging my head for some time with this brickwall, so hoping a someone might have a fresh idea.

My 2 x great grandmother was Jane Musson, according to all census records she was born abt 1852 in Crich, Derbyshire (can also be registered as Belper) She married Arthur Hutchinson 3rd Nov 1872 in Basford, Notts. I have the marriage cert and she states her father is George Musson who works for the Railways (GWR)

There are various tree's on Ancestry that list her parents as William Musson and Grace Thraves, but looking at these further I dont think they are correct, I later find Grace on the 1861 census with her family as head of the family and daughter listed as Mary Jane born in Derby in 1952, living in Lincolnshire.

I have not been able to place Jane Musson on a 1861 census as yet, nor confirm a birth or baptism for her

Every other document I have for Jane Musson she is just Jane not Mary Jane, and living in either Nottingham or Derbyshire.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I'm going round in circles

I have also posted this in the Nottingham forum

[Pennines]

Pansypetal.

Have you discounted the birth in Q/E Sep 1854 for a Jane Musson -- Belper Reg Dist?

Also there is a 6 year old Jane Musson in 1861 living with a stepfather John Hyde and his wife Mary Ann.

A Mary Ann Musson married John Hyde in 1858 - Belper Reg Dist.
A George Musson married in Q/E Dec 1853 - Belper Reg Dist. There are no Mary Anns on the same page - but there are Marys.
I am wondering if this is George - and he died between 1853 and 1858.
It may be worth obtaining the birth cert for the Jane born 1854 - to confirm or eliminate that one 'from enquiries'.

[suzard]

I have been banging my head for some time with this brickwall, so hoping a someone might have a fresh idea.

My 2 x great grandmother was Jane Musson, according to all census records she was born abt 1852

I think you may be misreading Jane's age on census
It looks like her birth was c. 1854
1881/91/1901 census her y.o.b. is given as c.1854
1871 her age is transcribed as 19 but image reads 17 (she is Lodging with a Hutchinson family) occ Frame Work Knitter

I can only find a birth reg for Jane Musson Sept qtr 1854 Belper Reg Dist ( Crich falls within this district)

and then I think I have found her age 6 in 1861

post more shortly

Suz

[CaroleW]

The December 1853 marriage was George Musson and Mary Wheatcroft


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VNY3-WGV

[suzard]

I wonder if she was registered as Mary at marriage but full name was Mary Ann?

1851
Strret Crich Derbys
Thomas Wheatcroft Head M 46 Duffield
Sarah wife 41
MARY aNN daughter 21 FWK
Elizabeth daughter 18
Maria daughter 15
Samuel son 9

Sarah & Children b Crich
HO107 214 5 229

Suz

[ScouseBoy]

There is another  spelling of Crick   CRICK    which is a village in Northamptonshire    near to the M1 motorway.

[Pennines]

Suzard -- that's what I wondered also.

I think that 1854 birth cert is definitely needed. Just to see if father was George and check the mother's maiden name.

[CaroleW]

Link to post on Nottingham board

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=753126.msg6019435#msg6019435

[suzard]

Another little "clue" as to Mary being Mary Ann Wheatcroft

Jane Musson  had a half brother  Samuel Hyde age 3 (in 1861) b Crich

Here he is in 1881
40 Trafalgar St Sheffield Yorks
Samuel Wheatcroft Head M 40 Wood Turner Crich Derbys
Jane wife 42 Conisbro' Yks
Sarah Ann daughter 13 Sheffield Yks
Samuel son 10 Sheffield
Alice Beatice daughter 8 Sheffield
Kate Emily daughter 1 Sheffield
SAMUEL HYDE nephew U 23 circular sawyer Crich Derbys
RG11 4643 25 9

so Samuel Wheatcroft was Samuel Hyde's uncle
and Samuel Wheatcroft was the brother of Mary Ann Wheatcroft

by the way mary Ann hyde died before the 1871 census

Suz