Harriet Rowarth nee Collins

[maryanne]

After finding Maria Truan ,single, age 55  visiting her sister Harriet Rowarth age 57  at St Just in Roseland in 1911, I decided to bite the bullet and ordered a marriage certifcate hoping that Harriet was a Truan before marriage.
Unforunately it seems that I was wrong.
This Harriet age 23 and single, married David Rowarth age 24 and single, in 1878. Harriet's father was named Peter Collins and Harriet was living at Morice Street, Devonport.
I cannot find Harriet Truan after 1871
The Harriet that I am seeking had sisters Maria and Elizabeth and their father was named Peter.
I looked at various censuses and Harriet's husband was born in Manchester.
Elizabeth Truan had a daughter named Edith Truan who was born in Manchester and both then lived in Cornwall.
 Harriet and Maria in 1911 are younger than the two that I have in my tree but Harriet Truan's  age  changed between 1861 and 1871 whilst living in Cornwall.

[CaroleW]

In 1861 - Maria is 14 and Harriet 16 so birthyears 1847 and 1845 respectively, which as you say is a substantial difference to 1911 where Maria is 55 and Harriet 57

There are no marriages for either a Maria or a Harriet Truan on freebmd

[CaroleW]

In 1881 - David Rowarth b Lancs 1853 is a soldier and shown as unmarried.

In 1881 Harriet is transcribed as Roweth - born Falmouth 1854 - soldiers wife.  Living in Falmouth with son David Henry aged 3mths b Falmouth - he died 1882

The 1911 entry shows son David Rowarth b 1888 Manchester which is confirmed on the 1891 entry

Is it a coincidence that Harriet Truan's father was Peter as was Harriet Collin's??

As Harriet was around 8yrs older than David Rowarth - did a bit of "fudging" go on?

David does not appear in 1901/1911 although Harriet is shown as married and a charwoman.  Perhaps he found out??

[Annette7]

It would be a help to see the 3 sisters you mention in context:

1861 Census - Gerrans, Cornwall

Peter Furan (as transcribed)  62   born St. Just, Cornwall
Eliza    "         45                         born Falmouth, Cornwall
George F. "    18                          born Gerrans
Harriet A. "     16                              ditto
Maria J.    "     14                              ditto
Elizabeth  "      4                               ditto

Truan is an awful surname to research as I'm sure you've found.

3 siblings births above were all registered as 'Trowan' i.e.

George Frederick Trowan June qtr.1842
Harriet Ann Trowan Sept.qtr.1844
Maria Jane  Trowan Dec.qtr.1846
then
Elizabeth Truan  Dec.1856   (on later census she becomes Elizabeth C. rather than plain Elizabeth??)   

In 1871 Harriet is not with her family - where have you found her?

So, Harriet is actually Harriet Ann born 1844
      Maria is Maria Jane born 1846
      Elizabeth born 1856.

Peter, their father, was a widower (son of another Peter) when he married their mother Eliza Peters 13/1/1838 Veryan.   One of the witnesses was a William Collins?? 

Although they did have other children I have only concentrated on the ones in question here.

Annette

[trish1120]

Peters first Wife was Thomasin WHETTER married 13 Dec 1834 Gerrans
She was Buried 06 Nov 1836 age 31, abode Church Town
They had 1 Child ELIZABETH ANN Truan Baptised 16 Jan 1836
(FreeREG)

[Annette7]

I note that when Harriet died in 1919 her death entry shows her as Harriet A. Rowarth (although with a ca. birthdate of 1856??).

Likewise, when Maria J. Truan died in 1914 her birth year given as ca.1853??   At least Elizabeth's death in 1934 give the correct ca. birthdate.

For what it's worth, I think you do have the right marriage certificate for Harriet who dropped 10 years off her age when she married.   The mystery is the 'Collins' surname she gave.

Think there is a story here - father Peter (as Truen) when he married for 2nd time in 1838 states his father had same name.    However, there isn't a baptism that fits for him, nor a likely burial entry for his father.   Is the surname Collins the key here somehow?

Annette

[CaroleW]

David Rowarth born 1858 died 1930 Salford - no probate entry

The 1891 shows a daughter Harriet - death 1898 in Lancs for Harriet Rowarth aged 12

Looks like David & Harriet split up sometime after 1891



 

[maryanne]

For what it's worth, I think you do have the right marriage certificate for Harriet who dropped 10 years off her age when she married.   The mystery is the 'Collins' surname she gave.

Think there is a story here - father Peter (as Truen) when he married for 2nd time in 1838 states his father had same name.    However, there isn't a baptism that fits for him, nor a likely burial entry for his father.   Is the surname Collins the key here somehow?

Annette

I have looked high and low for a baptism of Peter Truan all spellings and have  never found one yet.

[maryanne]

David Rowarth born 1858 died 1930 Salford - no probate entry

The 1891 shows a daughter Harriet - death 1898 in Lancs for Harriet Rowarth aged 12

Looks like David & Harriet split up sometime after 1891

In 1901 and 1911 Harriet is back in Cornwall and is married but no sign of her husband.
Harriet had 5 children and only one survived.