Samuel HALLAM b abt 1810 ?Stockport s/o John & Mary

[Adnepos_Iacobi]

...John Holmes a soldier bachelor and Mary Mason of said parish were married after Banns 27 Feb. 1810...

John Holmes b 1793 Templemere, Tipperary, 79th Foot was in Heaton Norris, pensioner and cutler with wife Mary b Ireland in the 1861 census.

The timeframe is good but I can't trace a Mary MASON born in Cheadle Hulme abt 1789 to match the 1851 census findings of John's widow. Her age is confirmed from the monumental inscription. Mary the wife of John was born 'Cheshire' from the 1841 census. Need a Mary MASON born Gill Bent to clinch it and I've found no trace.

Pity...

[..claire..]

Didn't the father John Hallam die c1835 ? If the Holmes family can be found in 1861 they can be ruled out, unless it's a totally different couple

[Adnepos_Iacobi]

There are a lot of Hankinsons in the NC registers... Manchester Cross Street Presbyterian ~ bn 13 july 1792, bapt. 20 Aug. 1792...

I can see Mary the widow of John HALLAM in the 1841 [b Cheshire] and 1851 [b Gill Bent] census. The obit and MI confirm her birth in 1789. Therefore a 1792 birth rules out Manchester Mary and a baptism in Manchester is unlikely when there were Presbyterian Chapels much nearer to the place of birth (both Stockport and Altrincham). There are a lot of Hankinsons!

[..claire..]

MARY MAISON bpt. 29 July 1787 Pott Shrigley dau of Edward and Ann , Cheshire ~ Closest I can find at 5 miles from Cheadle

[..claire..]

Have you found Mary in 1861 census ?

[Adnepos_Iacobi]

Didn't the father John Hallam die c1835 ? If the Holmes family can be found in 1861 they can be ruled out, unless it's a totally different couple

Yes, John HALLAM was christened 25 May 1786 Stockport High Street Presbyterian Chapel. It's very unlikely he would have been born in Ireland. And the 1861 census finding rules out the 1810 John 'Holmes' marriage as a candidate.

[Adnepos_Iacobi]

Have you found Mary in 1861 census ?

In 1841 a spinner living on Canal Street, Stockport, with her daughters Phoebe and Elizabeth. In 1851 widowed, a spinner aged 62 years (born Gill Bent) living on Canal Street, Stockport with her daughter Elizabeth. Not found her in the 1861 census.

Died 30 Apr 1867 in Stockport.

[Tall Al]

Hi,

Possible for Mary in 1861 census - shown as Mary Walton (Higher Hillgate, Stockport) - widow.

There is a will for Mary Hallam showing on Ancestry - died 30 April 1867.

Alan

[Adnepos_Iacobi]

Possible for Mary in 1861 census - shown as Mary Walton (Higher Hillgate, Stockport) - widow.

Thank you, I have checked this out and this Mary 'WALTON' looks like it is probably Mary HALLAM the mother of Samuel.

There is a will for Mary Hallam showing on Ancestry - died 30 April 1867.

Thank you again, I'll order the document from Cheshire Archives; it may well have useful information.