can some one find his parents , sibblings etc

[oldhippyone]

i have just had a email off my sister and on the marriage it says father fredrick smith shipbuilder thats all it says any help to find him will be appreciated

[Girl Guide]

Hhmm not finding a Fredrick in 1911 with this sort of occupation.  Could mean that he actually built ships/boats or he worked in a shipyard.

Can you tell me where Wilfred was living at the time of his marriage and who the witnesses were.  Might give a clue of some sort.

I wonder if you may be able to find more information about Wilfred through his locomotive driver records.  One slight snag is that you would need to know which train company he worked for.

I notice that he has now become Wilfred H when on the marriage certificate he appears to be just Wilfred.

Who was the informant on his death certificate?  Anything helpful to trace from that?

[oldhippyone]

wilfred got married to ellen spry march 1923 at easington , iv tryed looking for wilfred on the locomotive records but found nothing and as for the wilfred H smith it is on this thread how i found the H in 1953 doris his daughter was on the parlimentart and local govement electoral roll at st nicholas ward saville place ymca at newcastle , also with her was wilfred H smith [ im presuming her dad ] , jean chapelhow one of doris,s witnesses at her wedding i dont know who wilfreds witness were

[Girl Guide]

Do you know which railway company Wilfred worked for?

[oldhippyone]

i honestly dont know , all i know is what iv put on this thread ... his daughter doris spry smith [ a only child that i know of ] was married in 1953 at newcastle and her father as iv explaind above was with her in saville place YMCA in 1953

[oldhippyone]

would a blacksmith come under boilermaker ?

[Girl Guide]

Not too sure that they are the same thing.

A blacksmith is someone who works iron with forge and hammer.

A boilermaker is someone who makes metal boilers for generating steam.

So sort of related but not quite the same.

Has anyone got the death certificate for the Wilfred who died in 1975, birth date given as 13 December 1896?  If not perhaps it would be worth while getting it to check who registered the death.

I find it a little odd that he is just Wilfred on his marriage certificate but is Wilfred H on the electoral roll and then back to plain Wilfred on the 1975 death registration, assuming that this is the correct Wilfred.

Could you ask you sister again for the witnesses names on Wilfred's marriage certificate?  It would be interesting to see who they were.  Family or friends?

Is there any address for Wilfred on his marriage certificate?  It may be worth checking the electoral rolls for that address to see who was living there other than Wilfred.

[oldhippyone]

i have emailed her again this morning and waiting for a reply , on all that you have asked , but i have also asked her about her tree on it it has winfred as being born in hetton durham , when iv googled hetton it says its in n yorkshire 1896 but no more info on that apart from  death 31 /  10 / 1975 and his marriage march 1923 easington i asked her did she get the hetton from his abode on marriage or some where else , and once i get answers i will post them on hear , i know iv searched ancestry at library [ my subscription ran out last week ] and family search and cant find anything possative iv even looked in 1939 register but cant find wilfred or his wife ellen or his daughter doris

[oldhippyone]

i have just searched again for hetton and there is one in durham