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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #99 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 17:33 BST (UK) »
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco?type=simple&rgn=full+text&q1=thomas+gibson+&cite1=&cite1restrict=author&cite2=&cite2restrict=author&firstpubl1=1700&firstpubl2=1800&Submit=Search


http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004821568.0001.000/1:5?rgn=div1;view=fulltext

Hello dobfarm and All

Thank you.

It seems in this earlier edition of Whitehead's Directory 1782 to 1784, from your 2nd link in quote (prior to my 1787 microfiche edition, quoted in Reply 82), there were no Hoods listed, earlier? Unless it has OCR scanning problems?

Also, before John Hood, was Publican of the Ship, it was Wm Finley ...
Finley Wm. publican, ship, South Shore.
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004821568.0001.000/55:5?page=root;size=100;view=text

No Hoods only the Robin Hood, pub
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco?didno=004821568.0001.000;firstpubl1=1700;firstpubl2=1800;rgn=works;size=25;sort=occur;start=1;subview=detail;type=boolean;view=reslist;q1=Hood;op3=and;q3=Newcastle

No Hood Anthony and no Hood Robt?

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 18:33 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this one has been put on before, 1st Directory of Newcastle 1778

https://archive.org/stream/firstnewcastledi00whit#page/n8/mode/1up

Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #101 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 18:46 BST (UK) »
Though anything is possible as Hood relationships ! like Anthony Hood ancestry, George Hood mariner of South Shields had link to Scarborourgh area at Cloughton, and the coastal travelling sea  & inland large river ports seafaring Hood's seem connected --where Anthony Hood line are business town folk would be more localized.
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #102 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 19:06 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this one has been put on before, 1st Directory of Newcastle 1778

https://archive.org/stream/firstnewcastledi00whit#page/n8/mode/1up

Claire (you've found the big HIT)

Newcastle 1778

Public houses - Mrs Gibson, 'Ship' near Newgate page 40 in your link 'Claire'

John Hood X Elizabeth Gibson married 1779

'Whitley Bay' is a nice if the sun shines Mark for a holiday

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #103 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 19:37 BST (UK) »

Are you sure that's the correct one? I thought John Hood was at the 'Ship' on Spicer Lane (1778 in the occupation of Jos. Liddell.)

Or am I mistaken?
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #104 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 19:51 BST (UK) »

Are you sure that's the correct one? I thought John Hood was at the 'Ship' on Spicer Lane (1778 in the occupation of Jos. Liddell.)

Or am I mistaken?

The 1778 says near Newcastle

 Alphabetical LIST of the people in Trade, &c. in Newcaſtle

(For location only Spicer Lane)

•Atkinſon Jane, publican, black horſe, Spicer-lane

1782

http://ota.ox.ac.uk/text/5466.html
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #105 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 19:57 BST (UK) »

Right thanks. You've all put so much work into this thread I don't want to make any mistakes :)
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #106 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 20:03 BST (UK) »

Right thanks. You've all put so much work into this thread I don't want to make any mistakes :)

Hi Claire

Its a big coincidence Mrs Gibson is a Publican of a pub call the Ship as well as John Hood

John Hood Bond 1779 says 'without walls but within the liberties' of the town of Newcastle. (meaning just outside)

With in the Walls

Spicer lane

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-series/newcastle-historical-account/pp160-182

5) After the old wall was pulled down, the east end of the Quayside, from Spicer Lane to Sandgate, was divided by iron rails, and the part next the river was ...
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #107 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 20:49 BST (UK) »

Are you sure that's the correct one? I thought John Hood was at the 'Ship' on Spicer Lane (1778 in the occupation of Jos. Liddell.)

Or am I mistaken?

Thank you, for this 1778 Directory link. It seems Newcastle and Gateshead are together in the 1778 Directory.

See my Reply 55 page 7 of this thread for 1787 image extract ... Hood John, publican, fhip, South-fhore
North-shore was along the North side of the River.
South-shore was along the South side of the River.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.54

Several Ship pubs, when searching "ship" and "fhip".

Bear in mind this other chap is between Gibson and Hood, if it was the same pub, or same Licence (by transfer-see below).

Even though the Gibson example says 'near New-gate', if it doesn't turn out to be near South-shore, it might very occasionly still be the same License, as old Licences were held by the applicant. Also a pub name could very occasionally transfer to other premises.

Our 200 year old Victuallers Licenses, name the Victualler, Township or Parish name and that he/she must live at their premises and virtually all by then, are giving his/her pub or inn sign name.

Hopefully, an Annual Victuallers Register survives for the whole of the period (giving pub/inn name, with the Applicant and His/Her Bondsman) and it should possible to compare year by year, any changes, by elimination. Also any new pub names which appear, or those which disappear.

Yes dobfarm, late summer break being considered (but just negotiating wife's shopping allowance - Laugh O. Loud).

Kind regards, Mark