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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #225 on: Wednesday 21 September 16 23:37 BST (UK) »
Hi

I wonder if ol' George Hood was a hands-on barrel making Cooper, or giving his business title of Cooper when he married in 1815. Ten years later circa 1825 he was a Retail Brewer, so had diversified.

If he was not an Apprentice Cooper, he could Possibly be from a commercial background, perhaps starting off as a Clerk for a Business, Solicitor, Accountant, Agent or Merchant. George Hood seems shrewd, careful even appointing an Arbitrator over his Will.

Newcastle Coal Export
There was a John Hood of Newcastle, Hostman, followed by Anthony Hood, Hostman, who apparently ran a monopoly type system and controlled the export of coal on the Tyne, probably similar to how oil, gas and commodities are sold today (a glut of crude oil/gas, or too much on the world market and the price drops).

Be interesting to see if John Hood the Hostman, had a son called John.

John Hood the Mariner
The other thing, is that with George Hood's dad possibly being John Hood a Mariner, then by 1786 Gateshead could have just been the Baptism stop-over place, as John Hood and wife were mobile.

Just a few thoughts?

Regards Mark

EDIT
Anthony Hood was a fitter 1787 Newcastle Directory.

1791 Directory says Anthony Hood worked for Simpsons and Pontop [Colliery] was one of those listed.

1791 The Universal British Directory of Trade, Commerce, and Manufacture
Newcastle, re Anthony Hood, fitter ...

Anthony Hood,
Fitter of Simpsons - Pontop
,
Tanfield-moor,
Blaydon-main,
Longbenton,
South-moor,
Whitefield,
Ryton-moor, and
Marly-hill, Coals.

Sounds like Anthony Hood of Newcastle, was a firm with contracts to the coal mining industry.

Scroll back to pages 35 & 36 for Rob. Hood and Anthony Hood ...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4QwHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=%22Simpson+and+Blackett%22&source=bl&ots=yd7-ZBDUMN&sig=3ZNB25fTZJsnaUE1MqlcE7JJAqY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIq4Od4s_OAhXMJsAKHeqQD0sQ6AEIGzAA


A Descriptive and Historical Account of the Town and County of Newcastle Upon Tyne ... by E. Mackenzie, 1827, page 706 regarding collieries, says ... "Mr Hood for Mr Simpson"
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CPsVAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA706&lpg=PA706&dq=%22mr+Hood+for+Mr+Simpson%22&source=bl&ots=ZSHeIA0vM3&sig=9XrofJTTLpsxW4y2rzDoSOp9Xuc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjKqav2xaHPAhVqB8AKHUhJCCYQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=%22mr%20Hood%20for%20Mr%20Simpson%22&f=false


It is interesting as a William Hood born Cunnagal? Yorkshire c1780 (in 1851 Census of Collierley & Pontop)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733961.0
Carnagill (by Hipswell) near Richmond or West Carnagill, Hunderthwaite / Baldersdale?

Regards Mark

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #226 on: Thursday 22 September 16 04:44 BST (UK) »
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John Hood the Mariner
The other thing, is that with George Hood's dad possibly being John Hood a Mariner, then by 1786 Gateshead could have just been the Baptism stop-over place, as John Hood and wife were mobile

Unquote,

Contraception or birth control was hit and miss them days (Just a thought  :-\- still is in some cases ;D)

Normally- John Hood X Elizabeth Gibson: - one would expect to find a string of children baptized & a few infant burials after their marriage...... whether or not !! they were George's parents

7 years after a marriage for a first birth ! and  with only having one child.......... must have a reason.

There was only one baptism in Gateshead 1786 of a Hood child father John, -----so mariner would fit that scenario.

Another route to research: is other ports with a singular child  (or just a small number of children) Hood baptism with a father John around the coast. 1779 to 1800

George Hood bapt 1786 dad John Hood could have been a journeyman  (Cooper Tanner-Brewer- merchant - Joiner ) or stand in innkeeper/manager/moved around different pubs a lot - local or national

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Staging Inn post or complex ! hotel , change horses, stables, onsite brewer, restaurant for travellers part of stagecoach company or shipping line-mariner come Innkeeper

Similar to  Wells Fargo

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 Small street trades were a big thing them days to high standards in skills & singular trade business needing high skills (Gov) diversifying is unusual (Owner or manager or charge overseer needed the skills)

The parish of birth was the word of law or reasonability of people born in that parish whether they lived there or moved out of the parish, -  to put occupation a cooper on a bond legal paper in any parish document of God if untrue ? (Sinclair notes ? are unusual also on a bond allegation 1815 of George Hood )
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #227 on: Thursday 22 September 16 18:53 BST (UK) »
Thank you, for your observations

Sorry, but more bad news, re the Muster Rolls, no John Hood on any vessel called Mary listed! http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg6060511#msg6060511

Hopefully, I'll find out more about the birth of William Hood (aged 71) born Yorkshire Cunnagal, of Collierley & Pontop in the 1851 Census, whose wife Catherine (aged 55) was born Newcastle All Saints, at Reply 225 above?

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #228 on: Friday 23 September 16 07:59 BST (UK) »
Its New! Early days- Could turn out a dead end.


Only Hood cooper other than George Hood Selby

Suspect Richard Hood who married to Eizabeth Barrett - 1817 Sutton on Hull- maybe  bother of George Hood died 1845 Selby-

( [Had a daughter bapt Drypool docks Hull] Sarah Ann Hood Bapt in Drypool 1831)

Richard Hood   
     Death   
     Oct-Nov-Dec   
Year     1838   
   Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England 
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 Wiliam Hood bapt 9 Nov 1819 Hull father Richard & mother Elizabeth Hood

Cooper •Gibson John, 19 High street HULL in Pigot's Directory of 1829

Could have been trained by Gibson as a cooper (or not)

1841 c say ap = apprentice for William Hood b1820

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756357.msg6060847#msg6060847


Error Image should say 1861c
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #229 on: Friday 23 September 16 08:48 BST (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22sarah%20ann%22~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahood~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1831-1831~
 
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Asusannah~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahood~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Ayorkshire~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1828-1828~&collection_id=2563939
 
 
Father Richard died 1838 Sculcoates   (Age or year of birth and Occupation unknown
 
Serra (Sarah) Jane Hood born 1831 married Henry Laverty 1849 Hull
 
1861 census
 
W Hood b 1820 Married occupation pauper- cooper - Sculcoates Union Workhouse
 
 
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/yorkshire-bishops-transcripts-of-marriages?firstname=richard&firstname_variants=true&lastname=hood&spousefirstname=elizabeth&spouselastname=barrett
William Hood parent Richard & Elizabeth Hood
 
Richard Hood    marriage
Elizabeth Barrett     
    10 Feb 1817        Sutton In Holderness,York,England 
 
 
William Hood parent Richard & Elizabeth Hood
 
bapt 9 November 1819
 
HOLY TRINITY, KINGSTON UPON HULL, YORK, ENGLAND
 
Richard Hood   
     Death   
     Oct-Nov-Dec   
Year     1838   
   Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England 
 
 
 
William Hood
England and Wales Census, 1841
   
     William Hood   
     
 1841 C   
 Sutton, Yorkshire,Yorkshire East Riding,     Jennings Street   
   
   
Age      20   
   
Birthplace   Sculcoates Union   

Parish     Sutton   
County     Yorkshire,Yorkshire East Riding   
 
 
Household
 
Role
 
Gender
 
Age
 
Birthplace
 
   William Hood   M 20-24 Yorkshire
Sussanna Hood    F 13 Yorkshire
Serra Ann Hood    F 10 Yorkshire
George Harrison    M 65-69 Yorkshire
John Henshaw    M 25-29 
Thomas Finnighan    M 25-29 
John Pickets    M 25-29 
         
 
 
 
Elizabeth Hood
 1841c
   
 
 
 
 
 
    Elizabeth Hood   
       1841 c   
    Sutton, Yorkshire,Yorkshire East Riding, England   
   Jennings Street 
 
    50   
   
Birthplace     Yorkshire        Sculcoates Union   

Parish     Sutton   
 
   
 
 
Household
 
Role
 
Gender
 
Age
 
Birthplace
 
  Ann Whitaker    F 50-54 Yorkshire
Heneratta Whitaker    F 11 Yorkshire
  Elizabeth Hood   M 50-54 Yorkshire
 
~~~~~~~~----
 
William Hood
England and Wales Census, 1851c
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Elizabeth Hood   
 
  1851c    Sutton, Yorkshire,Yorkshire (East Riding), England   

    Jenning Street   
   
Age     60   
     Widow   
     Mangler   
   
b   1791   
Birthplace     Withernsea, York   
 
Household
 
Role
 
Gender
 
Age
 
Birthplace
 
   Elizabeth Hood  Head F 60 Withernsea, York
Susannah Hood   Daughter F 23 Kingston Upon Hull,
Sarah Ann Laverty   Daughter F 19 Kingston Upon Hull,
Thomas Wm Hood   Grand Son M 5 Kingston Upon Hull
 
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Cooper •Gibson John, 19 High street HULL in Pigot's Directory of 1829
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #230 on: Friday 23 September 16 10:13 BST (UK) »
Burials

Richard Hood born 1817 burial 1837 no occupation  Address "Groves"
Richard Hood born 1774 burial 1838 no occupation  Address Jennings St,  Groves
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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #231 on: Friday 23 September 16 15:24 BST (UK) »
These are such long threads I apologise if this info has already been discussed

Marriage of John HOOD mariner, and Elizabeth GIBSON 1779 ALL SAINTS, NEWCASTLE.

Possible first child for the couple

ELIZABETH bpt. 15 April 1781 father John Hood MARINER

Marriage  Tynemouth 24 Jan 1804

William COOK and Elizabeth Hood by banns.

several children between 1804-1811 all at Tynemouth. Register states father a Mariner native of Lowestoft or Suffolk, mother native of parish of ALL SAINTS.

On one childs baptism she was native of Gateshead, this was crossed out and All Saints put in.

From BT's, was a mistake made when the BT was written, or was the PR entered this way also?

Plus,  wasn't a future grandchild of George Hood given the middle name COOK ?

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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #232 on: Friday 23 September 16 16:33 BST (UK) »
These are such long threads I apologise if this info has already been discussed

Marriage of John HOOD mariner, and Elizabeth GIBSON 1779 ALL SAINTS, NEWCASTLE.

Possible first child for the couple

ELIZABETH bpt. 15 April 1781 father John Hood MARINER

Marriage  Tynemouth 24 Jan 1804

William COOK and Elizabeth Hood by banns.

several children between 1804-1811 all at Tynemouth. Register states father a Mariner native of Lowestoft or Suffolk, mother native of parish of ALL SAINTS.

On one childs baptism she was native of Gateshead, this was crossed out and All Saints put in.

From BT's, was a mistake made when the BT was written, or was the PR entered this way also?

Plus,  wasn't a future grandchild of George Hood given the middle name COOK ?


Elizabeth Cook Hood 1854 birth
Selby, Yorkshire, England
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Elizabeth Cook Hood - Father James Hood (mother Sarah Arundal - Cook could have come from her family grandparent ?)

marriage to John Blanchard Sugars -  father William Sugars

1876

Selby, Yorkshire, England



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Re: Richard Gibson married 1792 Selby- 1800 trade directory a Cooper Wren lane Selby
« Reply #233 on: Friday 23 September 16 19:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks dobfarm & All,

Possibly a John Hood Mariner moving about, at Gateshead and Monkwearmouth Shore, or two John Hoods?

Found John Hood (last entry for household indicates John Hood, changed to James Hood) in Land Tax records in a list at:-

http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/Pages/AdvancedSearchCatalogueDetail.aspx?SearchType=Param&SearchID=3ed35817-b157-4ab9-9f6d-5ff36b745926&ByRelevancy=Yes&ItemID=910845

Q/D/L 2 Land Tax returns, Chester Ward East, 1789

Gateshead township, Gateshead
Property of Mrs. Clark; occupied by JOHN (Mr.) HOOD



Ref: Q/D/L 6 Land Tax returns, Chester Ward East, 1812

Monkwearmouth Shore township
Property of Matthew Smith occupied by JOHN HOOD



Ref: Q/D/L 5 Land Tax returns, Chester Ward East, 1813

Monkwearmouth Shore township
Property of Matthew Smith occupied by JOHN HOOD



Ref: Q/D/L 7 Land Tax returns, Chester Ward East, 1814

Monkwearmouth Shore township
Property of Matthew Smith occupied by JAMES HOOD


Newcastle Courant, 14th March 1845
On the 6th inst., aged 74, Mr John Hood; he was nearly thirty years in the employ of the New Stourbridge Glass Company, Gateshead.


Tyne Mercury ... 1st August 1820
At West Boldon, yesterday, Mr John Hood, boot and shoe-maker, of Monkwearmouth Shore, to Miss Mary Winter, of the former place.


Newcastle Journal, 10 June 1837
At Bishop-Wearmouth, on the 3rd inst. Mr. John Hood, of Seaham, to Miss Elizabeth Ragg of Birtley;