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Searching for my ancestors the Wallace family of Ballyclare.
« on: Sunday 28 August 16 17:57 BST (UK) »
Hi people, what a wonderful and amazing website/forum you have here, it is truly amazing all of the good information to be had whilst looking for relatives from the past.
I have really really come up against a brick wall, my ancestor who is my grandfather on my fathers side has a very unusual name but I am struggling a bit finding things out about him.
I did a search on ancestry.com and the only info to be had was a will and probate, that actually gave me my grandfathers date of death, so I then went onto the Groni site and found his death certificate which I have now ordered the full one, what I am stuck with is I cannot find anythig else out about my family.
The info I do have is my grandfather was a Samuel Shields Wallace and he was 44 when he died on the 20th August 1958 so he was born in 1914, I remember my father telling me about where he lived as a boy and his grandfather died before he was born, my father was born in 1936 his father married in 1935 the family lived in Rosebud cottages  (Abercorn drive ) as it is now known in  Ballyclare county Antrim, my father did manage to find out he was buried in the local cemetery but couldn't find the grave when he went there.
So I am wondering what is the next step and best way to find out anything else about Samuel shields or his Father Robert?

Thank you so much if you are still reading this is the first steps in finding my family ancestry and I suppose this is the easy part. At least he wasn't called John Smith.

I await your replies and have a lovely day.

Best wishes Gary.
Interested in the Wallace’s from Ballymena and the Shields from Carrickfergus.

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Re: Searching for my ancestors the Wallace family of Ballyclare.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 August 16 18:46 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat.
He may not have been born in 1914, the age on his death cert would depend on the month of his birthday also death Certs depend on the informant having the correct information, in other words they are often incorrect.
Is Shields his mother's maiden name. It may not be on his first name on his birth cert, quite possible he is registered as Samuel Wallece.
I see two possibles in 1914 and another 1913 but none have mother's name as Shields.
Do you know of any siblings?

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Re: Searching for my ancestors the Wallace family of Ballyclare.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 August 16 19:03 BST (UK) »
Larne Times 8th Nov 1951 mentions a man of that name  under title ''coat of arms''
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Re: Searching for my ancestors the Wallace family of Ballyclare.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 August 16 19:11 BST (UK) »
I've just replied to other post on someone else's thread-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754414.msg6041061#msg6041061

If he was illegitimate then birth would be registered under whatever his mother's surname was, Robert Wallace could have been step-father, etc.

my father did manage to find out he was buried in the local cemetery but couldn't find the grave when he went there.
Did he have the plot details or was he just looking for a gravestone? it may be that the family didn't put up a stone and you'll need to check cemetery records (whichever one it is).

How do you know that his father was Robert Wallace? what was Robert's occupation? What religion were the family?
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Re: Searching for my ancestors the Wallace family of Ballyclare.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 August 16 19:30 BST (UK) »
There are 3 Wallece children with mother Shields, Albert 1914 William 1911 Anna 1910 all registered Belfast. Could be more later.

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Re: Searching for my ancestors the Wallace family of Ballyclare.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 August 16 19:45 BST (UK) »
A Robert Wallace married Isabella Shields 17 Dec.1916 Larne district-
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4f84b56524779
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Re: Searching for my ancestors the Wallace family of Ballyclare.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 August 16 19:47 BST (UK) »
There are 3 Wallece children with mother Shields, Albert 1914 William 1911 Anna 1910 all registered Belfast. Could be more later.

Probably children of William Wallace & Martha Shields who married in Belfast 7 Dec.1909-
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/dcd2706689343
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Re: Searching for my ancestors the Wallace family of Ballyclare.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 August 16 20:07 BST (UK) »
A Robert Wallace married Isabella Shields 17 Dec.1916 Larne district-
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4f84b56524779

There is a birth for a Samuel Sheils 23 Jan.1914 Larne district, Carrickfergus sub-district (no mother's name in GRONI's index which indicates an illegitimate child).
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c59db50093031
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Re: Searching for my ancestors the Wallace family of Ballyclare.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 August 16 20:19 BST (UK) »
Just posting in case I can't find it again-

Robert Wallace (age 31) died 29 Aug.1928 Larne district, Carrickfergus sub-district
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