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George Robson birth about 1856
« on: Thursday 08 September 16 15:32 BST (UK) »
I will try to make this simple to understand.  George Robson is my great grandfather but there is some confusion.  He named as his parents on his marriage certificate on 19th September 1879 in the District of Anderson in the Burgh of Glasgow as William Wealand Robson and Margaret Potts (deceased). George gives his age as 20 years and is a bachelor.  George Robson married Ellen Boyle Spinster.

On his death certificate in 1901 in the District of Tradeston Burgh of Glasgow it gives his age at the time of death as 35 years and says he is single (I beleive the age to be incorrect more likely age on birth cert correct and should read 41 years of age) .  Again his parents names are given the same as before William Wealand Robson and Margaret Potts (both listed now as deceased).

My problem is I cannot find his birth during the above years 1856 and years either side.  I have searched under the name of Potts and Robson.  I have searched on census and the wider family but without luck.  Both parents are from Durham. Margaret Potts, the mother from Sunderland.

Northumberland and Durham Family History Society suggested that I arrange a search of baptismal records for the relevant period, Sunderland Local History section in Sunderland City or the Durham County Archives as the Bischops transcripts stops about 1840.

Is anyone able to search Baptism records please covering the area of Sunderland for a child named George who's mothers name is Margaret Potts?  It is possible that George was an illigitimate child of Margaret Potts, there may even be the surname of the father of George given.  I understand these are not available online and I live in the SE of England.

William Wealand Robson was divorced when he married Margaret Potts in 1879 (he had two sons from his previous marriage, one died as a baby the other stayed with his wife).  Margaret Potts was named in the divorce proceedings as his mistress who he later married and they produced two daughters.  There is never any mention of George and yet George has named both William and Margaret as his parents on his marriage certificate and the same details appear on his death certificate.

Any advice or help appreciated please.  I have traced back further on this line taking the information on both marriage and death as correct but of course without absolute proof (as yet unfounded) I could be way off track.   
 

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Re: George Robson birth about 1856
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 September 16 15:43 BST (UK) »


William Wealand Robson was divorced when he married Margaret Potts in 1879 (he had two sons from his previous marriage, one died as a baby the other stayed with his wife).  Margaret Potts was named in the divorce proceedings as his mistress who he later married and they produced two daughters.  There is never any mention of George and yet George has named both William and Margaret as his parents on his marriage certificate and the same details appear on his death certificate.
 

William and Margaret's marriage seems to have been 1869 rather than 1879 (Jun qtr 1869 Sunderland).

By "there is never any mention of George" are you saying that you have found William and Margaret in the censuses and there is never a son George with (either of) them?
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Re: George Robson birth about 1856
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 September 16 15:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Patrizia, I am just adding a link to your previous posting about George Robson and his parentage, since quite a bit of searching was done on that  :)  it would perhaps be worth anyone coming new to this subject to take a look at this link first of all  :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=710964.msg5544530#msg5544530
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Re: George Robson birth about 1856
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 September 16 16:06 BST (UK) »


William Wealand Robson was divorced when he married Margaret Potts in 1879 (he had two sons from his previous marriage, one died as a baby the other stayed with his wife).  Margaret Potts was named in the divorce proceedings as his mistress who he later married and they produced two daughters.  There is never any mention of George and yet George has named both William and Margaret as his parents on his marriage certificate and the same details appear on his death certificate.
 

William and Margaret's marriage seems to have been 1869 rather than 1879 (Jun qtr 1869 Sunderland).

By "there is never any mention of George" are you saying that you have found William and Margaret in the censuses and there is never a son George with (either of) them?

Sorry my mistake it was 1869.  That is correct by the time of the 1871 census which was 2 years after they were married in 1869 George (if birth was 1856) would have been 15 so possibly left home. 


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Re: George Robson birth about 1856
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 September 16 16:23 BST (UK) »
Just to add I found a George Potts in the 1871 census aged 15 years which would be the right age born in Sunderland, he was listed on page 4 of Durham Bishop Wearmouth, N Bishopwearmouth District 7 he was on page 4 listed as an apprentice in lodgings but going back to page 3 the head of the house was a baker. As George when found in Scotland was employed in a biscuit factory - just maybe it was him.

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Re: George Robson birth about 1856
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 September 16 20:28 BST (UK) »
Is anyone able to look up baptism records for Sunderland please for the period 1856 to 1859 for a boy given the name George who's mothers name was Margaret Potts.  I understand these records are not online and it means a personal visit which I am unable to do.  Someones assistance would be greatly appreciated.