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Re: John Swinnerton
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 15 September 16 19:50 BST (UK) »
Yes that's the correct one. Alice was Samuels second wife.

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« Reply #37 on: Thursday 15 September 16 20:00 BST (UK) »
Seems strange they are living separately on the 1901 UK census  ???

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« Reply #38 on: Thursday 15 September 16 20:05 BST (UK) »
Looks like they had separated as not at the same address in the 1901 Census. Then
the the of arrival into America is wrong.

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« Reply #39 on: Thursday 15 September 16 20:08 BST (UK) »
Immigration dates are only as good as the informant who gives them. 

Samuel wasn't mentioned in the probate record for his father Simeon in 1908.

Perhaps the marriage certificate for son John would tell us if Samuel was alive in 1917  ???

We know Samuel was deceased on the marriage of Frank Swinnerton 21 June 1930.

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Re: John Swinnerton
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 15 September 16 20:22 BST (UK) »
So Frank was married in 1930 I dont have the details for that.

Then Samuel had died before the marriage.
We know by the info given n 1914 when daughter Ann traveled from Liverpool
that Samuel was alive.

So he would have died sometime between 1914 and 1930.

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« Reply #41 on: Thursday 15 September 16 20:26 BST (UK) »
Frank's marriage

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« Reply #42 on: Thursday 15 September 16 20:29 BST (UK) »
Probate for Frank

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« Reply #43 on: Thursday 15 September 16 20:34 BST (UK) »
Father Simeon probate 1908

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Re: John Swinnerton
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 15 September 16 20:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks for those certificates Sandra.
Father Simeone probate mentions two other surnames.
He had many daughters probably son in laws.