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Re: Was he really dead or legally on that date?
« Reply #27 on: Friday 23 September 16 02:46 BST (UK) »
Dau of James TURNBULL, a pastycook on the marriage cert.

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6713/1972
PRICE Effie Scott
Father James  Mother Katherine
District Sydney

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Re: Was he really dead or legally on that date?
« Reply #28 on: Friday 23 September 16 02:47 BST (UK) »
Yes,  in that era, the practice in Australia was to list the woman's surnames in that order, most recent back to earliest.    Cando is spot on.

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Re: Was he really dead or legally on that date?
« Reply #29 on: Friday 23 September 16 02:47 BST (UK) »
Cando,

I agree but it's the marriage which has the wrong info. (maiden name as Munro)

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Re: Was he really dead or legally on that date?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 23 September 16 02:49 BST (UK) »
The info on the NAA service file is for an extract from official records held in Glasgow.  It may be that the extract is a mis-read of the official records.    It would not invalidate the marriage.

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Re: Was he really dead or legally on that date?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 23 September 16 02:52 BST (UK) »
Good thinking about the marriage of daughter Annie :)  I looked through NSW marriages for those surnames up until 1965 without success.

I looked through electoral rolls and Effie seems to have been living apart from her new husband after about 1943 1949.  Daughter under surname of Price didn't appear at that address.  The only death for new husband seems to be in 1974 and I couldn't find  a death notice.  :(

I'll try to get to records office next week  :)
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Re: Was he really dead or legally on that date?
« Reply #32 on: Friday 23 September 16 02:55 BST (UK) »
Yes JM,

I understand that.

I was merely pointing out something which could sometimes confuse people, especially someone new to research  ;)

I have just realised Effie's death was in Sydney. I was looking for a marriage for daughter Judith in England as I thought "Paddington" on the death notice was in London, England  ::)  ;D

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Re: Was he really dead or legally on that date?
« Reply #33 on: Friday 23 September 16 02:59 BST (UK) »
The AIF form re the marriage in 1917 ....


The AIF form is a pre-printed form, and on the  "Bride" side the heading is Maiden surname.  The typist entered this as MUNRO ...  it would likely be a copy typist and reading from a list.  The list likely would show MUNRO as the Bride's surname at the time of her marriage.    All that has happened is that the typist preparing the document did not strike out the word 'maiden' ....   


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Re: Was he really dead or legally on that date?
« Reply #34 on: Friday 23 September 16 03:04 BST (UK) »
Cando,

I agree but it's the marriage which has the wrong info. (maiden name as Munro)

Annie

I think a bit of commonsense is required when viewing documents such as this.  It is not a certificate of marriage but an extract on a AIF document.

Her legal name at the time of marriage was MUNRO no matter what her status ie widow, divorcee or spinster.  That is the name in which the married must be recorded.

It is a standard form for all AIF extract of marriages no matter if the bride was previously married or divorced etc.

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Re: Was he really dead or legally on that date?
« Reply #35 on: Friday 23 September 16 03:07 BST (UK) »
I have just realised Effie's death was in Sydney. I was looking for a marriage for daughter Judith in England as I thought "Paddington" on the death notice was in London, England

Yes, Annie I can relate to that.  ;D

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