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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #495 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 22:34 BST (UK) »
Thank you Claire

I've wondered if the Jane Hood, (wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner), buried Selby 15 August 1803, aged 65 years, was a Jane Cook or Jane Pearson, or Jane Alfred?

This Jane Hood of Selby remains a mystery.

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There was no Gibson, in the names of James & Sarah Hood's children, which fails to prove descent from the John Hood = Eliz Gibson, marriage.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #496 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 06:39 BST (UK) »
Depends how  old  Joseph was at baptism
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #497 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 11:29 BST (UK) »
Very true dobfarm. But his age in the army record is consistent with a 1737 birth.

Regarding the lack of the Gibson name in children - we just can't find a link from this couple to George. The same could be said for John Hood in Selby with 'wife' Jane or his first wife Elizabeth - we can't find a link.

In a time where it was popular and traditional to name your children after your parents -we would possibly expect George and Sarah to at least name a daughter Elizabeth or maybe Jane, if the above scenarios were correct.

Two of their children William and Mary possibly show they were following a naming pattern given Sarah Russels parentage.
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #498 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 12:38 BST (UK) »

So if they followed tradition -George Hood and Sarah Russel may have done this...

George and Sarah - named after themselves

William and Mary - named after Sarah's parents.

Possible scenario's

John and Ellen(or ?)
James and Ellen(or)
or Richard and Ellen(or)

Richard Gibson married an Eleanor - what if either of these were George's parents ?
Or George could have been raised by them ( born in Gateshead - parents possibly deceased, possibly having a sister Elizabeth born 1780 Newcastle All Saints - married William Cook )

Food for thought :)
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #499 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 13:19 BST (UK) »
Very true dobfarm. But his age in the army record is consistent with a 1737 birth.

Regarding the lack of the Gibson name in children - we just can't find a link from this couple to George. The same could be said for John Hood in Selby with 'wife' Jane or his first wife Elizabeth - we can't find a link.

In a time where it was popular and traditional to name your children after your parents -we would possibly expect George and Sarah to at least name a daughter Elizabeth or maybe Jane, if the above scenarios were correct.

Two of their children William and Mary possibly show they were following a naming pattern given Sarah Russels parentage.

In ancestry, having an exact date year of birth and baptism same year as birth, when entry of birth year calculated from age given or more given from the actual person themselves  when alive living , and family forename passed down in in children/ grand children is usually acceptable near proof in when info is limited or poor.

Finding a candidate baptism with a near same year to match of birth and family forename, that cannot be eliminated as another persons life, is near impossible, the fathers trade of occupation if known or a same father forename found in the same location as a baptism with a occupation that a son follows-- can add substance.

We have George death year 1845  age at burial 60 , death certificate age 60 and the important one George Hood when alive himself giving his age as 28 in 1815 at marriage, the year is between 1786 and 1787.

An Anglican Church of England parish entry. George Hood baptism 1786, father John Hood Gateshead and a John Hood who was a publican in  the Ship Inn in Gateshead who served brew

Richard Gibson dad from Newcastle Hallgate

George Hood d 1845 was a brewer

George Hood bapt 1786 Gateshead cannot be eliminated as cannot be identified as another George Hood with a future life after baptism

George Hood died 1845 had a son called John Hood and who has  a son called George Hood - Mark's ancestor.
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George Hood died 1845 was not a Quaker at burial

his wife Sarah Hood nee Russel died 1879 was not a Quaker at burial

Sarah Russel was baptism 1793 Anglican church of England

George and Sarah married Anglican church of England 1815

All George and Sarah's children were baptized Anglican church of England
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #500 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 13:46 BST (UK) »
You're right,  he is the only one where known family of the Gibsons and of Richard Gibsons wife Eleanor, Elizabeth Gibsons hubbie John Hood - their children -Elizabeth Hood married a COOK,

Elizabeth Cook nee Hoods daughter Eleanor  ( married as Ellen in London a Mr Bentley) - her sons carried the Hood surname on.

All these people's names or surnames carried on in George Hood and Sarah Russels family.

He has to be the main contender  :)
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #501 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 14:21 BST (UK) »
You're right,  he is the only one where known family of the Gibsons and of Richard Gibsons wife Eleanor, Elizabeth Gibsons hubbie John Hood - their children -Elizabeth Hood married a COOK,

Elizabeth Cook nee Hoods daughter Eleanor  ( married as Ellen in London a Mr Bentley) - her sons carried the Hood surname on.

All these people's names or surnames carried on in George Hood and Sarah Russels family.

He has to be the main contender  :)

This below makes GH bapt 1786 more than a contender.


"George Hood bapt 1786 Gateshead cannot be eliminated as cannot  be identified as another George Hood with a future life after baptism"
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #502 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 14:30 BST (UK) »
We just have to prove it  :-\ :-\
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #503 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 17:13 BST (UK) »
You're right,  he is the only one where known family of the Gibsons and of Richard Gibsons wife Eleanor, Elizabeth Gibsons hubbie John Hood - their children -Elizabeth Hood married a COOK,

Elizabeth Cook nee Hoods daughter Eleanor  ( married as Ellen in London a Mr Bentley) - her sons carried the Hood surname on.

All these people's names or surnames carried on in George Hood and Sarah Russels family.

He has to be the main contender  :)

Hi Claire, dobfarm and All

Thanks for replies.

An afterthought, about my reference to the lack of the Gibson surname in James and Sarah Hood's children, yes we do have John Hood's (North Shields and Newcastle area) daughter Elizabeth marrying William COOK.

However, we still have PEARSON to fit in and possibly an ALFRED surname.

John Hood married an Elizabeth Gibson.

It is a shame that we have the documents to prove the middle names of Russell (George Hood's wife); Wilkinson and Arundel.

Use of Russell, proves the Russel side of George Hood's 1815 marriage and William Russell was in Sarah Russell's descent.

I suspect that where the sex of James and Sarah Hood's child was right (both the first and middle name tallies with the ancestor). In other cases, perhaps only the middle name tallies with an ancestor surname.

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Perhaps, there will be some reference in Bentley paperwork, to a known Hood.

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I suspect that George Hood's (married 1815) Mother, was a Cook or a Pearson and possibly Alfred fits in somewhere?

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If there was a Yorkshire Parish record, I wondered if it was transcribed incorrectly as WOOD.

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Reference books give the alternative for HOOD as HODD.

HUDD is another, with HUDE as a variation.


Kind regards, Mark