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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #513 on: Sunday 25 June 17 21:58 BST (UK) »

Sorry to veer off topic, but here is a marriage that seems to have it all ::)
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #514 on: Sunday 25 June 17 22:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks Claire

Elizabeth Hood, Widow ... if nee Pearson / Pierson, then that would throw the cat amongst the pigeons!

Got to see those Quaker Minutes.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #515 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 11:45 BST (UK) »
That's a good spot dobfarm, will have to look at that

And this:

Here's an interesting one, don't really understand some of it

From the British Royal Navy Allotment Declarations 1795-1852 :
Date: 1808-1814
Rank: Armourer
Vessel: Acasta
Relation named: Mother ~ Elizabeth
By whom paid: ex: Berwick on Tweed


Good Morning Rootschatters

Thank you very much (on and offline), dobfarm and Claire

I've downloaded all 5 of the British Royal Navy Allotments 1810 -/+ 10 years, for George Hood, on FindMyPast.

Basically, there are at least two Navy George Hood Allotments in this search (circa 1800 - 1820), it seems:-

a) George Hood (with a Wi[fe] and Wi[fe] Ann) who was "By whom paid" Hinckley and Ex Hinckley.

b) The other one (being Claire and dobfarm's) example (Mo[ther] Eliz'th), "By whom paid" was Ex Berwick on Tweed. His Ship was given as ACASTA, so his place of birth would normally be in the R.N. Ship's Book.
 
So we either have a George Hood with a Wife Ann being paid Hinckley and Ex Hinckley, or George Hood with a Mother Elizabeth being paid "Ex Berwick on Tweed".


ACASTA
There are some records for the ship ACASTA covering 1808 to 1814 at TNA, Kew (so possible chance for Birthplace duplication), but there are NO ADM 36 after 1807 for ACASTA, where Birthplaces are known to be recorded.

FindMyPast have catalogued George Hood 1808 to 1814 "By whom paid" Ex Berwick on Tweed, so I'm wondering if there is some other record / info hidden away.


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The John Hoods found previously (Selby - Ex Scarborough and the other Newcastle / North Shields) were both Mariners (moving up and down the coasts), so until more information is gleaned, this George Hood cannot be ruled out.

Perhaps the Royal Navy had a Pay Office at Berwick on Tweed?

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HOODs on Ships in ADM 36 on FindMyPast
Places of birth should be under the Ship in ADM 36 at the TNA, Kew. A few Hoods on ships can be found on FindMyPast, but their database does not seem complete, or there is no ADM 36 coverage for FindMyPast to scan and transcribe (possibly the latter)?

circa 1810 -/+ 10 years ...
Charles Hood on BUFFALO, born Fulham. 

John Hood on VICTORY, born Chatham.

Robert Hood on CALCUTTA, also a note ship AFRICAN Atf [possibly Ats Attestation?] Helena.


HOODs involved in the BATTLE of TRAFALGAR
Free TNA Search here (for 2nd attachment)
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/

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Royal Navy HOOD ALIASES - Circa 1814 - 1815

Naval Records so far on FindMyPast have a:-

Rich'd alias Wm ROBSON alias Jos HOOD alias BLACK (title), also written as Jos HOOD and ROBINSON (see attach. covering 1805 to 1869).

Rd Robson as Rob't Robson 1815.

Rob't HOOD alias as Dan'l McMILLAN (1815) and alias David[?] McMILLAN (1814).

Robert HOOD or Sam'l McMILLAN 1814.

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Rang Wakefield and from 1858 Administrations at Wakefield (listed in the gov.uk Probate Calendar) have to come from the Probate Registry. The Wakefield Registry at their WYAS Office consists of Wills only from 1858, proved at Wakefield.


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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #516 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 11:57 BST (UK) »

Will check these Alias Hoods for Wills - im sure I've come across one of them before. Definitely Hood alias something - I can remember reading it.

There is also a Robert Hood of HMS Signet, living in London - a mariner whose father John Hood is a farmer in New Malton, Yorks. Have we come across him before ? Will dated 1798.
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #517 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 12:02 BST (UK) »

There is a family in Spittal not far from Berwick baptising children in the NC records. A Thomas and Elizabeth Hood, can only see two children but is in the right timeframe - possibly more children ?
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #518 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 13:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks Claire

According to the photograph, the Royal Navy and Marines Greenwich Hospital Cemetery of about 20,000 (1749 - 1869), had the equivalent population of a Town!

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #519 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 15:09 BST (UK) »
HMS Acasta set sail exact date unknown for the east coast of America after the USA had declared war against the UK in June 1812 . By July 24 July 1812 she captured the privateer Curlew of the USA coast.

HMS Acasta Allotment sheet

Therefore if George Hood, Ex Berwick- under column ' When Allotment ceases date' its says 15th July 1812. Now whether this George Hood joined another ship or left the service of the RN ?

George Hood circa birth year 1786/7 was first recorded in land tax 1812 in Selby and this George married Sarah Russell on July 18th 1815 in Selby exactly on month after Land Napoleonic Wars finished June 1815. (reason coincidence or because he waited till the war ended to marry, because of chance he could have been recalled to service if on reserve RN while still at war)
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #520 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 16:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks Claire and dobfarm

British Royal Navy Allotment Books - George Hood (transcribed as 1808 - 1814)
Ship ACASTA
George Hood, Mother Eliz'th ("By whom paid" Ex Berwick) ...

"When allotted" (on the ACASTA looks to be date)
25 Ap 1811.

"Why Allotment ceases"
"When"
15 July 12 [1812]

"Where"
[blank]

and column
"D"
"DD"
"or R"

He hasn't been DD [which is claimed to mean Discharged Dead] or D,
but looks like "D/q" [Discharged quarters, at a guess??]


"To what time paid"
15 July 12 [1812]

If his Service began as transcribed by FindMyPast (1808 - 1814), then there must be another record, of this somewhere?

Perhaps this George Hood spent most of his R.N. life in Quarters and not at Sea and the ACASTA was his only Ship, or was he transcribed on FindMyPast as George Wood?


R. N. Abbreviations

https://www.nmrn.org.uk/research/service-record-abbreviations

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754855.3

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #521 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 16:29 BST (UK) »
I'm still puzzled by the FS webpage

 Google ----- England, Navy Allotment Records, 1795-1812 (Family search)

Them example doc pages are of 1831 and 1839  ??? but if the exist 1812

Then there are sailors signature for ones who could write, wife or mothers address.
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Any transcription of information does not identify or prove anything.
Intended as a Guide only in ancestry research.-It is up to the reader as to any Judgment of assessments of information given! to check from original sources.

In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth