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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #729 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 22:39 BST (UK) »
Just checked England & Wales Births on GRO back from 1902 to 1871 and cannot find any Curtis Births with nee Hood.

Curtis Births - Registration District of Camberwell, are fairly popular.

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #730 on: Tuesday 15 August 17 23:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark

Now this is interesting.....  both 1891 and 1901 Census living at 291 Camberwell Road

George Grove  b 1852  Selby  Head    Dairyman/Shopkeeper
Anna Mary  Grove b 1852   Selby  Wife
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #731 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 01:29 BST (UK) »
Brilliant find Goughy ;D

When they married John Conway Curtis was living in Moseley, Birmingham and occupation a commercial traveller. A change of name and a move to London is not surprising in this case

Report in the Birmingham Daily Post 01 May 1880
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #732 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 02:11 BST (UK) »
AAAah, so that's why they lived under another name all their married life - 1881 they totally elude me but as the warrant was 1880 they could be calling themselves anything or avoided the enumerator all together. 😠
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #733 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 02:34 BST (UK) »
Think this could be them in 1881

George Groves b 1851 LEEDS  Coal Agent
Hannah M Groves b 1851 LEEDS

212 Grt Dover Street, Newington, London
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #734 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 08:43 BST (UK) »

I have some questions please, in London, where Hannah Mary Hood born Selby 1850 (who married John Conway Curtis) and was known as Anna Mary Curtis lives. In 1885 she was a Hood witness (of 291 Camberwell Road, London) and John Conway Curtis (her late husband's) address was still the same in the 1901 Probate Index, despite his death at the Constance Road workhouse, East Dulwich, Surrey.

But I can't find the Curtis at the 291 Camberwell Road address in the Census?

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Also wondering if the following might be related:-

John J. Lidle, 291 Camberwell Road, Baker, in 1880 (London Gazette)?

Also a Dairyman Mr Grove of the Dairy and A. M. Grove of Camberwell Green Dairy, 291 Camberwell Road, also seems to live (overlapping with the Curtis) at the same address, according to newspapers?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=763680.msg6308109#msg6308109



Hi Mark

Now this is interesting.....  both 1891 and 1901 Census living at 291 Camberwell Road

George Grove  b 1852    Selby  Head    Dairyman/Shopkeeper
Anna Mary Grove b 1852 Selby  Wife



Hi

Thank you Goughy and Claire

How interesting to wake up to this! ...

Hannah Mary Hood born 1850 became Anna Mary Curtis. Her husband John Conway Curtis is on the run in 1880, so they change their surname to Grove.

John Conway Curtis left £1702 in 1901, but in 1902 the Will was "Resworn" and worth just over two hundred.

The pair were never discussed!

Mark

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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #735 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 13:24 BST (UK) »
Well, it certainly wasn't what I expected when I began this search.

Spent his life on the run from the law - rather ironic that there is a great piece about him in 1875 - he was a great athlete. It brings new meaning to the words "he is the fastest runner in town"

It includes a photo too - quite a handsome chap  :)
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #736 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 13:58 BST (UK) »
The last sighting of Anna Mary is as a lodging house keeper in the Manchester area.

And there is this from the probate register

Curtis Anna Mary of 14 Herbert Street, Whitworth Park, Manchester widow died 11 October 1911 at the Royal Infirmary Manchester. Administration London 17 January 1912 to the Reverend William Hood, clerk.
£126. 19s. 1d.

There is also a burial at Southern Cemetery on the 14th October of a Anna May Curtis, grave 942 Consecrated ground.

http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/GenLocDetails.aspx?ID=73146
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
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Re: George Hood 1815 Selby Marriage - James Cookin / James Cook in W
« Reply #737 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hi

Claire, thanks for the link.

Yes, we knew about a Reverend William Hood and he died before his Wife.

His Widow's Will lacks any name/s detail, but certainly includes wording that the solicitor shall claim his fees, expenses and costs, but there could be no reading of her Will at death as nobody (except the solicitor and an accountant as executors) seem to be named, when her solicitor made her Will.

Her Will is poorly worded and I can see now, it went to a Public Notice for persons to make their claims and if no claim was received by x date, her solicitor would choose who was to benefit.

The whole idea of making a Will, is to specify what you want to happen after your death and who is to benefit from your estate, etc.

Lambeth Palace apparently don't keep any records of their Parish Clergy, but sent me a paragraph from Crockford's Clerical Directory of his Parishes and suggested County Records or the Diocesan Record Office might have something, that is assuming he left something among his Parish records and that it was kept, then later deposited.

But I suspect the Vicarage was cleared long before it went to the Public Notice. So family records, pictures, photos, can easily get sold off, given to locals or simply binned if it didn't sell.

Regards Mark