Ann Mansell Born c1823 Winchcombe

[Mansl]

That is Emma because when I was looking earlier it kept bringing up Emma White and I have just seen she married John White in 1880 reg. Stroud.

alan

[Mansl]

I thought I might try and have another go at finding Charles and Ann in the 1871, 1881, 1891 and Ann as a widow in 1901 census.

I do think they were alive because I have found a Charles Houldey aged 75 died Dec qtr 1894 Gloucester 6a 175.

And Ann Houldey aged 78 Dec qtr 1902 Cheltenham 6a 295.

Alan

[Mansl]

Charles Houlday was baptised 2/4/1818 at Haresfield and was a blacksmith in in earlier census's.

Ann was baptised 12/12/1823 in Winchcombe.

On their marriage Charles Holday.

[pinefamily]

How far back have you traced your Mansell line? I have Mansells/Maunsells in the Guiting Power and Buckland areas in the 16th and 17th centuries, but have yet to trace them further.

[Mansl]

I start my tree off with a Richard Mansell marrying a Joannah Jackson at Dowdeswell  in 1748.

They had at least two children Thomas bapt. 25/12/1748 and Alice bapt. 3/2/1754 at Dowdeswell.

Alan

[Capetown]

Had a quick look at the Forest of Dean Family History - Licences etc.

11 June 1638

Anthony MAUNSELL aged 30 - Bachelor, Yeoman - residence: Temple GUYTING  (he signs)

Alice COOKE - aged 22, Spinster, residence: Snowshill married by Licence

Bondsman: William EVANS, Snowshill, Weaver, 25.

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Men & Armour for Gloucestershire 1608

BUCKLAND and LAVERTON (WORCS., in Buckland parish Broadway)

Ambrose MAUNSELL, miller A40 (age 40) meanest stature
Cipryan MAUNSELL, husbandman, trained
Daniell WALLINGTON servant to Ambrose MAUNSELL Miller, A20, Tallest stature


TEMPLE GUITING (WINCHCOMBE)

Anthony MAUNSELL husbandman - A40 - lower stature


etc
etc


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Checking with National Archives

4 April 1605

Will of Thomas ALEXANDER alias MAUNSELL, Yeoman of Buckland, Gloucestershire.


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again an Alias surname very common.


At at Buckland

26 June 1666

Thomas FOSTER aged 35, Gentleman residence: Buckland
Alice ALEXANDER - aged 25, Spinster

By Licence



Memoranda : The bride is Alexander alias MANSELL

[Mansl]

Thank you Capetown, hopefully it will be some help to Pinefamily.

Alan

[pinefamily]

Yes, thank you Capetown. I did not have some of that information. They all belong to "my" Mansells.
From what I understand, the Alexander family married into the Mansell family, and later assumed the alias. I have yet to find the actual marriage; it likely took place pre parish registers.
Thomas Alexander alias Mansell, whose will was proved in 1605, was the father of Ambrose and Ciprian. His daughter Susan is my direct ancestor.
Anthony Mansell was the son of Ciprian I believe.
Regarding your ancestors, Alan, there are several trees on Ancestry that say that your Richard was baptised in Withington. Have you found any connection?

[Mansl]

I have not seen that baptism image, but would like to for proof, its the right area. The first sight of Richard I have is the marriage image to Joannah Jackson. I have no access to Ancestry since Covid. I would think one of them has found it and the others have copied  . Alan