Birth of LAWRENCE GORDON AGNEW

[cando]

Thank you.  Some confusion now.  It would appear that Lawrence has given the maiden name of his grandmother Ann BELLINGER nee BULL and also recorded as DEW

Marriage
AGNEW John Ernest Alexander born Ballarat
BELLINGER Ruth born Yorkshire
1912  Reg#7988

Deaths
AGNEW Ruth
Father Reuben BELLINGER  Mother Ann DEWS
At Richmond 55 years 1933 Reg#6171

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article204380212
Deaths
AGNEW (nee Lowery)  On 7th August at Bethesda Hospital, Ruth Agnes, dearly beloved wife of Jack Agnew and loving mother of Ethel [Mrs H Thomson]

The Age 9 Aug 1933
FUNERAL NOTICES.
AGNEW (nee Lowray).— The Friends of the late Mrs. RUTH AGNEW are respectfully
invited to follow her remains to the place of interment, the St. Kilda Cemetery, The funeral will leave her residence, 83 Clarendon-street, Thornbury, THIS DAY (Tuesday), 8th
August, at 2 o'clock.

First marriage
BELLINGER Ruth born Yorkshire
LOWERY William born Bendigo
1897  Reg#2458

Interred with her mother Ann BELLINGER nee DEWS on the death reg, Hilda W LOWERY and Dorothy LOWERY her infant children.
http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/14399S

However this appears to be her parents marriage in Victoria.
BELLINGER Reubin born Melbourne
BULL Ann  born Yorkshire
1877  Reg#611

Death
AGNEW John Ernest
Father William  Mother Catherine BELLINGER
At Melbourne South  49 years  1933  Reg#8061

Inquest Index
AGNEW John E
1933  Ref#1109
Cause Drowned NSE
Inquest Date 25 Sep 1933

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article205118369
The Age 7 Sep 1933
AGNEW On the 7th August. John E. A. Agnewof 83 Clarendon-street, Thornbury N.17
dearly loved husband of the late Ruth, loving father of Ethel [Mrs THOMPSON] son of the late W and C Agnew of Northcote, loving brother of Annie [Mrs Davis], Jane [Mrs Dockney] Mary [Mrs Beeden] Reuban and Maud [Mrs Woodhouse].

AGNEW. — Friends of the late Mr. JOHN E.A. AGNEW are respectfully Informed that his remains will be Interred In the Boroondara Cemetery, Kew. The funeral is appointed to leave his residence, 83 Clarendon-street, Thornbury, THIS DAY (Thursday), 7th September, at 3.30 p.m.
HENRY J. R, LEWIS, Funeral Director,
154 Johnston-street, Fitzroy; 247 High-street,
Northcote. Phone, JW1579.


Now to Ethel - Mrs H THOMPSON/THOMSON. Ruth's daughter.

This is the only death I can find who is the dau of a Ruth BELLINGER.

Death
WILLIAMS Ethel Maude
Father William LOWRY  Mother Ruth BELLINGER
At Melbourne  55 years  1963  Reg#18634

Birth
LOWERY Ethel Maud
Father Wm  Mother Ruth BELLINGER
At Prahran  1903  Reg#13027

And her marriage
LOWERY Ethel Maude
WILLIAMS Henry Thomson
1928  Reg#7568

Ethel Maud WILLIAMS was cremated at Altona but ashed not interred.  Henry Thomson WILLIAMS was cremated and his ashes interred.
http://www.gmct.com.au/deceased-search.aspx

There is an error with her married name in the death notices. 

So there is your Ethel WILLIAMS NOK.

Cando

[Dundee]

However this appears to be her parents marriage in Victoria.
BELLINGER Reubin born Melbourne
BULL Ann  born Yorkshire
1877  Reg#611

Cando

That was Ann's second marriage, she married firstly to William BULL in 1850 - I think 

Debra 

[cando]

Yes you are correct Debra...just about to post it .

DEWS Ann
BULL William
1850 Reg#23508

And I've just found a death cert for John Ernest AGNEW....NO ISSUE from his marriage to Ruth BELLINGER.

Cando

[cando]

Born Yorkshire   Possibly her mother was born Yorkshire.

Birth
BELLINGER Ruth
Father Rubin  Mother Ann DEWS
At Ballarat  1878  Reg# 210

Cando

[cando]

So no issue to the marriage of John AGNEW and Ruth BELLINGER....so who were Lawrence Gordon's parents?

Cando

[cando]

From his first marriage to Jean Elsa McFadyen.
They were married at Scots Church Ballarat on 19 Dec 1942 (could be the 14th)

He was at Watsonia army barracks.
Usual address 12 Stewart St Williamstown
Father John Agnew (dec)
Mother Ruth Bull
No closer to his birth though, it just says born in Melbourne no other details.

The writing on the thing is terrible, it looks like someone dipped a blowfly in an inkwell and let it loose.

Australian Electoral Roll - it would appear that Ethel had re-enrolled with their new address.
1949
WILLIAMS Ethel Maude 2 James Street, Williamstown  HD.
WILLIAMS Henry Thomson  12 Stewart Street, Williamstown  Engineer

1954
WILLIAMS Ethel Maude 2 James Street, Williamstown  HD.
WILLIAMS Henry Thomson  2 James Street, Williamstown  Engineer

Cando

[Dundee]

Was Ethel his mother?  She would have been very young.

Worst case scenario is that he was fostered/boarded out to John and Ruth.  Wardship records are closed after 1917 but you can apply for access via FOI.

http://www.dhs.vic.gov.au/for-individuals/applying-for-documents-and-records

Probably some more poking about is needed before going down that slightly complicated route.

Debra 

[rusted]

Thanks Cando and Dundee excellent finds, confusing but excellent.

That clears up some of the Ethel Williams line of enquiry anyway.
Next of Kin, so a close relative, if she was his mother she would have been around 13 years old when he was born.

I wonder if the Lawrence Gordon Agnew on the electoral roll at Benanee is the right bloke, my Lawrence wasnt discharged from the army until 1945, I would discount it except that I know my Lawrence enlisted at Mildura so he had some connection with the area. I don't know enough about how the military worked to know if you can enlist be trained and then go off labouring.

[~MERLIN~]

A couple of photos of L G AGNEW - VX14568:

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/070667/

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/070659/