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missing birth records
« on: Wednesday 09 November 16 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Can anyone help with missing birth records please.
My gggrandfather was born in Brixton surrey 1846 but there doesn't seem to be a record of his birth.  His name was Samuel Rowley. His father was William Rowley 1821  and his mother was Sarah.
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Re: missing birth records
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 17:46 GMT (UK) »
His birth may not be registered many weren't at that time, or perhaps it's registered in his mother's maiden name.  When did his parents marry?

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Re: missing birth records
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your reply .There is a marriage record for a William Rowley and Sarah Willmott who were widow and widower when they married 1847. I am not certain that it is the correct one. 

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Re: missing birth records
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 18:36 GMT (UK) »
do you have the marriage cert? the place of marriage could just be a possible place of baptism.

If you can find a baptism for Samuel it may have his date of birth recorded, some vicars did add extra info so it is worth a try.

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Re: missing birth records
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi is this the family in 1851?

William Rowley 1821 occ Carpenter & Journeyman b Kent or Hants
Sarah 1817 Leicestershire
William 1844
Samuel 1846
Mary 1849
All children born Tulse Hill
Census ref HO107/1575/246/8

The marriage you show has William occ Carman

In 1841 William could be the 20 year old Carpenter Apprentice in Lambeth
Census ref HO107/1054/ 6/37 / 9
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: missing birth records
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi  Yes it is the family. I have gained my info from censuses.

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Re: missing birth records
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Just going by siblings births from the GRO index her mn was TYRRELL. Marriage looks to be 1842 Lambeth.

I don't see a registration for Samuel,though.

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Re: missing birth records
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 18:59 GMT (UK) »
 :) A word of advice, never trust your research on census alone  ;D

The change of occupation from a Carman in Stepney to a Carpenter in Lambeth suggests that is the incorrect marriage you supplied?
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Re: missing birth records
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 November 16 20:49 GMT (UK) »
There are 2 Rowley ( mother Tyrrell ) births in Lambeth in 1847 :

Abraham A-J 1847 Lambeth v 4 p218
Isaac      ( identical reference )

Abraham Rowley died A-J 1847 Lambeth v4 p170 but I can't see any further mention of Isaac.



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