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Re: Where is this? #19 Street Scene
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 14 January 17 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Giggsy, I think you are right about the cart being on the wrong side because he is driving around the barrow.

This could just be wishful thinking, but is there something written over the larger door of the smithy, just beyond the cone?
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Re: Where is this? #19 Street Scene
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 14 January 17 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Does this help?
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Re: Where is this? #19 Street Scene
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 14 January 17 15:59 GMT (UK) »
I think you are so close. The Eight Bells, Bolney on the 1909 map looks like the right footprint. However, the OP's pic. shows what is probably a 15th Century building. Half timbered, even an A frame. Perhaps it was still there in 1909. That would mean the houses to the left and the smithy were demolished, and why the smithy was on the other side of the road. I think the modern Eight Bells is a different building.

OP's pic. could be as early as 1860's or even 1850's. In searching Google images I found other pics. from Surrey street scenes with working men in same clothes, paling fences, popular here and in the U.S. in the 1850's and 1860's. One was dated 1854.

See this, it's a dead ringer for the houses and smithy in the original pic. but is from Leigh, Reigate.

http://surrey.muddystilettos.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2016/01/7Stars_f29-720x478.jpg.

The add-on being the smithy.

 
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Re: Where is this? #19 Street Scene
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 14 January 17 16:05 GMT (UK) »
I've just played around a bit with sharpening, contrast etc, and going back to the original orientation, am I imagining it, or might there the sign above the door say something like Eagle Inn? (In which case, was the smithy part of the same establishment?)

Regorian posted while I was writing, and that picture of Leigh does look very similar. The only thing I would say is that the pitch of the roof might be slightly different....

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Re: Where is this? #19 Street Scene
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 14 January 17 16:22 GMT (UK) »
That pic. you posted, Carol, is marvellous. There's so much to see. For instance, the man on the right appears to be wearing clogs. It looks like yours has the right orientation, so the original needs flipping or whatever the term is.

 
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Re: Where is this? #19 Street Scene
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 14 January 17 16:30 GMT (UK) »
See this, it's a dead ringer for the houses and smithy in the original pic. but is from Leigh, Reigate.

http://surrey.muddystilettos.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2016/01/7Stars_f29-720x478.jpg.

The add-on being the smithy. 

Like I said before, it's a pretty good likeness, but I've just found a map of Leigh and the road layout doesn't match. The pub there (= our cottages and smithy?) is set well back from the road, and it's by a junction which just isn't there in our photo:

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=17&lat=51.2105&lon=-0.2574&layers=171&right=BingHyb

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Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Where is this? #19 Street Scene
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 14 January 17 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Quite so Arthurk, I checked the maps which precluded The Seven Stars from being what you are looking for.
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Re: Where is this? #19 Street Scene
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 21 January 17 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for not replying sooner, have been feeling rotten with this ubiquitous hacking cough. Thank you Carol for flipping the photo - is the consensus that this is the correct way around?

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Re: Where is this? #19 Street Scene
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 21 January 17 15:46 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for not replying sooner, have been feeling rotten with this ubiquitous hacking cough. Thank you Carol for flipping the photo - is the consensus that this is the correct way around?
Not sure we've had much consensus - I was hoping someone might be able to comment on my query about the cart:

Possibly more useful is the position of the driver of the cart/carriage, well over to one side. Does anyone know if there was a convention to sit on either the left or right?

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Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk