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Re: Absolutely can not find a birth index!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 November 16 17:28 GMT (UK) »
On the GRO website you can search GRO  online indexes using mother's maiden name - whether this is for a trial period or not I do not know. Perhaps just use forename as suggested by BumbleB & may need to use a few wildcards  in the maiden name ??? WIll need to register [free] first].

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

Thank you!! Have just had a look but you need a surname! Have tried HORNE but no luck there! Thank you though  :)

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Re: Absolutely can not find a birth index!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 November 16 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Welcome from me too  :)

Using FreeBMD you can search for just the forename = Barnett.  And if you search year by year, you may find a surname you recognise.

I can see quite a few registrations, so not an unusual forename.  :)

Hi, thank you :) I have just had a look but haven't found any I recognise, will keep trying variants though!! I wonder if when the certificate was written the name was copied down wrong (I presume they would have had strong Russian accents) so who knows what the name is??!
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Re: Absolutely can not find a birth index!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 November 16 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Have you found a birth index entry for his younger brother Isiah?
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Re: Absolutely can not find a birth index!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 November 16 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Have you found a birth index entry for his younger brother Isiah?

I have, he is registered as 'Ishia Horen', in April/May/June 1906 (11a 738). Mother's maiden name is 'Iseefichmon' :)


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Re: Absolutely can not find a birth index!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 November 16 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Barnett is 2 years older [7] than Isiah [5] in 1911; so presuming Isiah's birth registered within the 6 week period in 1904, Barnett must have been born 1902/3 & parents gave slightly 'out' ages in 1911.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Absolutely can not find a birth index!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 November 16 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Barnett is 2 years older [7] than Isiah [5] in 1911; so presuming Isiah's birth registered within the 6 week period in 1904, Barnett must have been born 1902/3 & parents gave slightly 'out' ages in 1911.

Really sorry but just realised I made a typo in my previous message! Should have read Isiah's birth was registered in 1906. Sorry!

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Re: Absolutely can not find a birth index!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 10 November 16 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Have you found Barnett on the 1939 register? if so what date of birth does he give there?

Do you know when Barnett died?
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Re: Absolutely can not find a birth index!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 10 November 16 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Really sorry but just realised I made a typo in my previous message!
I'm always doing that  ;D

ADDED; Might Barnett's mother's family be in London in 1911? Trying to think what Russian name 'sounds like' Iseefichmon....
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Absolutely can not find a birth index!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 10 November 16 18:02 GMT (UK) »
What happens if you take into account a Russian accent?

Sep 1904

HONICKBERG    Barnet         St. Geo East    1c   307

cross-reffing with the GRO gives mmn Vizeman

do you know what the surname was before it was Anglicized?

what about a Russian accent and a Welsh speaking registrar? what else could Iseefichmon be?
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Chandler-Chelsea