EMILY DEELEY born 1875

[Milliepede]

Hi Ray

The birth certificate is on a family tree but no father listed.

[Londoner 1]

Hi Ray, my cousin has Grace Lines birth certificate (her mother was Grace), but there is no father's name.  My cousin is now quite elderly and lives in America, so it's hard to correspond now days.

[[Ray]]

Hi

[ fyi I amended my prev post = unimportant but could be useful to someone ]

Ray

[Milliepede]

Looking at the two mystery children - George Albert Deeley 17 in 1911 and Dorothy 7 in 1911 both allegedly born Lambeth London.

Whoever the parent(s) were - either William or Elizabeth or both - if she was the mother she would only have been 17 herself when she had George so surely his birth registration would be under her original single name of Holbrook?

I'm wondering now if that's where her alleged widowed name of Brooks came from - a deviant of Holbrook as there doesn't seem to be a Mr Brooks in the picture at all.

[Milliepede]

Baptism - maybe - for Elizabeth Ann Holbrook St Saviour Bath

27 Feb 1876 - born 26 Nov 1875

Parents John occupation smith and Clara

Address 12 Claremont Cottages

[Milliepede]

In 1881 she is with parents and a sister

John Holbrook 28 blacksmith
Clara 24
Annie 5
Emma 3 **

Living Walcot Bath which is what she puts for place of birth 1911

** Birth registered as Clara Emma Jun 1878 Bath

Coincidence but her sister had a daughter called Dorothy and a son called Albert

[Londoner 1]

Looks like such a strong possibility Millipede, that Ann Holbrook /Brooks are one of the same.

My goodness, many people in those days were uneducated, but they surely knew how to be devious !

Like you said too....her sister had an Albert and a Dorothy, I wonder if they too could also be one of the same.

[Milliepede]

How about looking for these 2 mystery children in 1939? 

Dorothy might be married so under another name but worth a try in case anything interesting shows up.

And William Joseph of course - where was he and who was he with. 

[Londoner 1]

I wonder why George Albert and Dorothy, weren't named after their "parents", or have at least one of their names, as was the tradition in those days.