Donaghcloney Church of Ireland, Waringstown (Tullylish?): Harrison family

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Hi Polly, good to you steaming onwards,  its hard to know what sources you might not have tried, so this is my last round up for Valentine Harrison in case you haven’t seen any one of these.
PRONI Sources

from https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/ecatalogue

Repository :   Public Record Office for Northern Ireland
PRONI Reference :   D1928/L/58/5
Title :   Lease from William Brownlow, Brownlowsderry
Dates :   10 June 1730
Description :   Lease from William Brownlow, Brownlowsderry, to Valentine Harrison, Montraverty, County Armagh (with counterpart).


Repository :   Public Record Office for Northern Ireland
PRONI Reference :   D778/57
Title :   Thomas Fox of Hilsborough, Down, gent; Francis
Dates :   20 October 1717
Description :   Thomas Fox of Hilsborough, Down, gent; ........................ Valentine Harrison of Moyraverty, Armagh, farmer; Francis Toulerton of the same, widow of James Toulerton, and James Toulerton, junior; Robert Huat and John Robinson of Clondrutt, Armagh, farmers; Alice Huat of the same, widow of Mark Huat, and John Huat of the same, farmer; and Edward Bond of Armagh, gent., executor of Walter Bond, late of Armagh, deceased to Charles Campbell of Dublin, esq., and Edward Trevor, son of Sir John Trevor, late Master of the Rolls - Assignment of interest in estates at Grange, Dreyals Dree, Lurganvicknawly, Crossgarr, Crossan, Croan, Lisnesure, Ballymackanallen, and Ballyleny in Co. Down; and of Clondrutt, Drumgasky, Moyraverty, Cordglass and Darrycarn in Co. Armagh. The reversion of these properties is in Edward Trevor. The deed recites that Charles Campbell proposes to effect a Common Recovery against the said Edward Trevor. Consideration: to be paid by Edward Trevor to assignors: £3,000. Signed by all the parties - Grange, Dryals Dree, Lurganvicknawly, Crossgar, Crossan, Croan, Lisnesure, Ballymackanallen, and Ballyleny in Co. Down; Clondrutt, Drumgasky, Moyraverty, Corglass and Darrycarn, Co. Armagh.

         
Repository :   Public Record Office for Northern Ireland
PRONI Reference :   ARM/5/2/12
Title :   A return of the names residences, situation
Dates :   1824
Description :   A return of the names residences, situation and amount of freehold of the freeholders registered in the County of Armagh.
1043HarrisonValentineMoyravertyCharles Brownlow1824?

wills http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx

Administration of the Estate of Valentine Harrison late of 192 Shankhill Road and 84 Cliftonpark Avenue both in Belfast Publican who died 17 May 1909 at 84 Cliftonpark Avenue granted at Belfast to Frances Harrison the Widow.

Harrison Valentine of 9 Park Parade Belfast commercial traveller died 6 September 1934 Probate Belfast 22 October to Mary Jane Harrison the widow. Effects £257 19s. 1d.

Surprisingly Genes Reunited website with over 131 matches for Valentine Harrison have only one definite Valentine Harrisonin ireland
Forename Surname Born in Place of birth   Tree owner   
Valentine   Harrison   1850   Warringtown Lurgan N... Margaret
and more tenuously
Valentine   Harrison   1817   Probably Northern Ir...   No   Pauline   
Valentine   Harrison   1817   Probably Northern Ir...   No   Deborah

SOG  the Society of Genealogists http://www.sog.org.uk.
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good luck onwards

[kpfairfield]

In both the 1901 and 1911 Ireland census a Valentine Harrison b 1896 is living with my husbands Gt Gt Grandparents William and Mary (Shaw) Dickson in Ballynahinch, Down. He is recorded as being a nephew but I have no idea who his parents are so if he is a Dickson or Shaw family nephew.
I have no further record of him after 1911.

Maybe someone here will know who this boy is exactly.
 
Pat

[sam.b]

Valentine's Birth :
 Registration details
Registration number
U/1896/57/1007/61/392
Registration district
Belfast(pre-1973 Q4)
Registration sub-district
Belfast Urban 11
Child details
Surname of child
Harrison
Forename(s) of child
Valentine
Date of birth
18th March 1896
Sex of child
Male
District of birth
Belfast
Mother details
Forename and surname of mother
Margaret Harrison
Mother's maiden surname
Shaw
Father details
Forename and surname of father
William Harrison

[kpfairfield]

Thank you. After your response I was able to figure out that his mother, Margaret Shaw Lyons Harrison is a sister to our Mary Shaw Dickson.
Thanks again. 

[Polly Lynn]

DNA tests from December 2016 show this week that the following four or five Harrison families are related to each other and none is related to me! 
(1)  Bleary, Down.  They appear to go back to Seagoe Parish, Armagh.
(2)  Ballydugan, Down.  They appear to go back to Seagoe Parish.
(3)  Clare, Down. 
(4)  Corcreeny, Down.  A James Harrison died there in 1727. 
In possibly Seagoe Parish there was a James Harrison of Moyraverty in 1662 and he is worth looking at. 

These four above are the same DNA haplogroup as (5) Hillsborough, Magheradartin, and Blaris Harrisons, County Down.  However, I am not sure that #5 and 1-4 are closely related.  That should be checked.

As for me, I am none of the above.  I come from the Harrisons of a different haplogourp.  We were also from County Down: from Ballynahinch (Magheradrool Parish), Ballymacaramery in Saintfield Parish, Gransha (Bangor Parish but we are NOT NEWTOWNARDS Harrisons) and Ballylone.  Those all are my family.  My people are brother or first cousin to Isaiah Harrison (b. 1666) of Oyster Bay, New York, and Delaware, and Virginia who, in my opinion, must have been born somewhere in Ireland, not as is weedily thought in Chester, England.  My family of Harrisons have recently had a DNA match to a family from Chedgrave, Norfolk County, England, U.K., so are just starting to look at Harrison families related to the family tree of Harrisons researched by a Hargrave Harrison in the Norfolk area. 

Thank you to all on this forum who helped us pice together the Harrison families of Donaghcloney and Tullylish parish in Down and Seagoe Parish in Armagh.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Polly Lynn, very well done, and a strong thank you from someone who is not yet convinced about DNA for giving us such family detail that clearly solves the curiosity which has led you to find you are not related to four Co Down Harrison strands, and may open doors for others,  I admire your enthusiasm.

[HarrPol]

I have just linked in and am reading the chat with Polly Lynn on the Harrison family.  My family is Pierce Harrison (1809-1894). First wife was Elizabeth Pollock (1812-1862) on 1833, second Mary Ann Fryers on 1864. Thee were from Bleary/Tullyish/Waringstown. My line was from Elizabeth Pollock. Nicholas (son) my family line came to Australia, the family from the second marriage is in America. I am in touch with both. However, would like to find existing family of the Harrisons and Pollocks still in Ireland. These records are Jane, John, James, Mary, William, Sarah and Joseph. Also coud be Letitia and Alexander, Elizabeth. Another Pierce also came to Australia. Another branch - Harrison I have in my family is Margaret Harrison (1820-1891) who married Samuel Toman (1815-1904) in 1834 in Tullyish Parish Dromore. All these are from Bleary.  Both sides are my great great grandparents. Are there any family still in Ireland? Have really come to a bit of a dead end with Margaret Harrison and Elizabeth Pollock. Thanks, Heather.

[KatC]

To help with your immediate question, a fair case can be made for James and Mary to be Valentine's parents.  William Harrison and Ellen Wells had a first son Valentine b or bapt Dec 25, 1842.  He must have  died young as they had another son Valentine b abt 1854.  Yet, the  Valentine b 1842 seems to fit with the man who married Margaret Harwood.  Any ideas?   James and Mary of Ballydougan had William in 1814 per Seagoe and  is probably William who married Ellen and was born 1817 per Knocknamuckley's church census.  Valentine was an important name to the family. Not a proof. 

On the flip side, Valentine of Moyraverty mentioned Valentine Harrison, Isabelle Harrison (later her surname is Philips) and John Magill on his lease.  They are not among his children baptized at Seagoe, so who are they?   Isabella is the oldest daughter of Valentine and Jane. However, I have found Jane and Isabella are often interchangeable. names, so who is Isabella named after? .  Nevertheless,  I have noted several families moving between B'dougan and Bleary and Moyraverty. 

A problem is that Jane, a farmer age 54, is living with children Joseph, Matilda, and William in the 1857 census of Ballydougan. I can't read the second half of the record well, but I think it says Jane is a widow.   There is also Valentine, a farmer, living alone  age 42.   He is the only Valentine found in Co Down in Griffiths and is gone by 1875.   Robert and Richard are listed next to Jane's entry in the census.  Robert married 1849 at Tullylish COI and Richard married 6-20-1851 at the same church.  Matilda was said to go to NZ some time after marrying  John Reid.  Jane died 1890 at age 87. 

There is a Henry Harrison, widowed in Corcreany, who married Margaret Alderdice, dau of James Harrison, 1865.  Henry says his father is Valentine Harrison.  There is no trace of Valentine in DOnaghcloney COI records.  At one time I assumed he had Valentine and Jane as parents. 

[KatC]

I have been advised that there is an error in my database as the Valentine Harrisons of Moyraverty and Ballydougan have been confused.  The data from church records is correct, but the listing of family members is not.  The Valentine in Moraverty (m. Esther and d about 1853)with dau Isabelle is defintely not the Lisnamintry man be 1823 and doesn't seem to be the Ballydougan man.