Shipwrecks or accidents question

[Boongie Pam]

Well I have had a hugely exciting break through this evening. 

I was doing a look up for someone in the Dornoch MI and I copied out a grave for them and I always have a look either side to see if there is a family connection and lo there was my lost John Scott on his parents grave.

Anyway this is the MI so you see the basis for my question...

In Memory of James Scott who died at Torduff 4th July 1834 age 67 Also Dorcas Bell spouse of James Scott Torduff who died 9th April 1819 age 52.  And Janet their daughter who died 6th August 1811 age 10 months.  Also George their son who was lost with the crew of the Brig Village of Newcastle on Cromar Sands, Norfolk 31st October 1823 age 25 years and Jane their daughter who died at Annan 21st November 1849 age 49.  And Christine daughter of John Scott of Annan who died 9th April 1823 age 10 moths.  Also James his son who died at Bueonos Aires 19th May 1851 age 23 And the above named John Scott who died 17th April 1859 age 66 Also Robert Scott his son who died at Annan 21st December 1862 age 29

I searched for Robert's death cert and that confirms that he is the son of my John Scott and Helen Caruthers - yippeee.

So the grave MI leads to my question there are loads of deaths at sea (Norfolk, Argentina, Shetland) how do I get info on these.  A librarian mentioned Lloyds insurer's does anyone know what archive material they hold?  Other than that I know it is a trawl through the papers!

What the MI doesn't say is that John Scott also died at sea I think he drowned off the coast of Shetland, washed up on the shore - need to confirm this. Not true - that was a different John Scott!

Anywho, a lot of detail for a simple question - sorry!

Pam
 

[Kazza]

Hi Pam,

Congrats on the new information,  just goes to show the hidden benefits of helping someone else out. 

These are two links I came across recently while trying to find my Norwegian Sailor g-grandfather,  they may be of some help.

http://www.nationalarchivist.com/
http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKDeathsAtSea.html

Kazza.

[Boongie Pam]

Cheers for this.  It's a new area for me - I don't know how they were employed as they seemed to own there own boats - well John Scott had shares

Looks like I need a trip to the PRO! 

Thanks again,
Pam

[Kazza]

Always happy to help out a fellow Mod.   

Kazza.

[Amy K]

A small list of british shipwrecks can be found here

http://www.shipwrecksofscotland.com/wrecks.htm

There are some links to shipwreck sites at the bottom of this page, furthermore it is an excellent shipping site all-round.

http://www.mightyseas.co.uk/

here's another good site, but you may have to pay for access to some of it 

http://users.accesscomm.ca/shipwreck/

[Boongie Pam]

Thanks Amy 

My deaths were too early for the sailors records at Kew so this is the next avenue.  Funny where you get dragged, I may learn to dive and go for a paddle off Cromer Sands lol

Thanks again,
Pam
 

[Boongie Pam]

I've been thinking about my "lost at sea" folk again  (It's been 2 years since that first post!  They'll think I've forgotten!)

In particular George Scott from the grave in the first post ...

Also George their son who was lost with the crew of the Brig Village of Newcastle on Cromar Sands, Norfolk 31st October 1823 age 25 years

I want to check if anyone knows of any records from a shipping viewpoint that covers this era?

The suggestions in previous replies are great but haven't turned up any info.

Any help appreciated,
Pam
 

PS: Does anyone have access to this book at a library in England?

Stibbons, P.J.R. and Malster, Robert
The Cromer lifeboats 1804-1986.
[ISBN 094614821X, Norfolk: Poppyland Publishing, 1986]

[Boongie Pam]

Thanks to Casalguidi for the articles in Times.

I had a look for other reports on the gales of 1823 and found an interesting site.

Historical weather reports:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/climate/wxevents.htm