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Nelson Births circa 1887
« on: Monday 12 December 16 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone,

I am trying to find a birth record for a woman possibly born during 1887 (may be before or after that year) that apparently occurred in Nelson.

She was adopted, but it was quite possibly an undocumented adoption by family members.

Her name was Catherine Urania or Urania Catherine GRAY, but this would appear to have been given to her by her adoptive parents Archibald GRAY and Johanna ARNOLD.

DNA matches suggest a link to the ARNOLD family, but I have not found a likely candidate for her birth.

Any suggestions welcomed  :)

Simon
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Re: Nelson Births circa 1887
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 00:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Simon

Hmm ... bit of a difficult one  :-\ ... have looked over numerous records (with still a few more to check).   

I do have a "theory" about what may have occurred ... and will convey this to you via PM once I've finished checking.

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Re: Nelson Births circa 1887
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 December 16 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lu,

Quote from: Lucy2 on Tuesday 13 December 16 00:38 GMT (UK)

I do have a "theory" about what may have occurred ...


has me waiting with baited breath  :)

Many thanks,

Simon
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Re: Nelson Births circa 1887
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 January 17 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Just a quick note to say that we're now on oxygen because our breaths are also baited (my extremities have gone blue and the tank's getting empty)... ;) ;D

Any progress? 8)

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Re: Nelson Births circa 1887
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 January 17 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: spades on Monday 02 January 17 22:34 GMT (UK)
Just a quick note to say that we're now on oxygen because our breaths are also baited (my extremities have gone blue and the tank's getting empty)... ;) ;D

Any progress? 8)

Spades

Hi Spades,

I must admit that I have cheated  :)

Due to medical advice I was advised to start breathing again to avoid the extremities being removed  ;)

Simon
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Re: Nelson Births circa 1887
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 January 17 23:25 GMT (UK) »
<puff...puff> My doctors on holiday playing golf... ;) ;D



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Re: Nelson Births circa 1887
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 18:38 GMT (UK) »
Hello Simon,

I'm sorry but I am not able to alleviate your present breathing difficulties with my message...... :D ;D

This is the lady whose birth you are enquiring about?

1954/22232   Evison   Urania Catherine   67Y

1908/2495   Urania Catharine   Gray   Albert Edward Guelph   Evison

A question: Are you able to tell us the date on which Urania Catherine celebrated her birthday?


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GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Nelson Births circa 1887
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Hello Minniehaha,

Looks like I will need to see the doctor again  ;)

That is indeed the lady in question. At this point I am not aware of when she celebrated her birthday. I will check to see if anyone knows.

I am aware that when she applied for National Super apparently they "found" a birth entry for her and there was some consternation that it meant Urania was born earlier than she thought. The 1887 birth year is consistent with her given age for both her marriage and death certs.

Simon
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Re: Nelson Births circa 1887
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 January 17 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Simon

Further to your PM, as I have mentioned earlier, further checking needed to be done by me before reporting back to you.   Some of that checking has been done ... but not all was able to be completed before the Christmas break due to an illness and a death - circumstances beyond my control and which "ate into" the time I would normally devote to volunteering in this forum.

I am aware that I've yet to reply further to you, but be assured that will be done just as soon as I am able.

   ~  Lu
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