Looking for James Downing

[hookleg]

WOW!! Thanks so much to everyone who has found info for me. Poor Etheldreda what a dreadful situation to find oneself in. I wonder if she continued to use the name Brine? Perhaps she went to South Africa with her daughter. Most helpful research from all the RootsChat members who have posted on this topic. What a fantastic lot you all are. Regards. Hookleg

[keyboard86]

Hi all,  anyone any thoughts of the whereabouts of Etheldreda Downing/Brine b 1881 Suffolk in 1911 onwards?
Keyboard86

[chempat]

South Africa?  Under initials in 1911?

I did hope that Nora would have children, but I don't think they did.

I also wondered if she changed her name, as Etheldreda is a bit of a mouthful, but probably not.

[keyboard86]

  A puzzle, not with daughter Nora aged 15 with her brother Oswald on 1922 voyage?
Keyboard86

[hookleg]

I have a subscription to 'A' genealogy site and can't get any of the info about Silas Brine, Etheldreda's marriage or Leonard Norman Downings marriage (s). Have I made the wrong choice of site??? I wonder.

[sgf28]

Silas Brine's marriage to Etheldreda didn't happen so there won't be any records and the name Silas Brine was one of his aliases.

His marriage to Lily Wilson was in 3rd qtr 1909 Kettering Vol:3b Page:436, he used the name John Francis Leopold Sharpe, age 28, bachelor, an electrical engineer.

To add to the names, when Silas was arrested 26th April 1906, by Birmingham City Police in Birmingham(it doesn't say what for) he was using the name Johnson but his arrest warrant was under the name of Turner.  He said he had deserted from the Army three times, enlisted for the first time using the name of Turner but had took the name of Sharpe in 1906 and had used that name since. He said that he had never used the name Brine in the Army but had been known by that name by the police.

[sgf28]

One of the newspaper reports from the trial says that Silas was the son of a Boreham Wood gardener and that he had got two other girls from Luton into trouble aswell.

[sgf28]

This maybe a possibility for Silas Brine:

1891 Laymore, Wellhouse Lane, Thorncombe, Axminster, Devon
Albert Edward Brine,35, ag lab, Dorset
Sarah, 40, wife
Silas, 12, Thorncomb, Dorset
Tom, 10
Jane, 8
Sidney, 7
Ernest, 4
Harry,1

1901 Census has Albert Edward Brine and family living at Ferndale, Boreham Wood Station Road, Elstree, Elstree (Herts), Silas isn't at home.

[chempat]

Picture of Silas Brine on Ancestry.

Deaths given as 1942 or 1955.

A claimed marriage to Rose Florence Poynter in October quarter 1914 in Lewisham (?) also that he used the name Francis Brine.

Also that in 1939 he lived at 34 Dermody Road, Lewisham, England and in 1951 was a gentleman of the road in a wood by a reservoir in Elstree.

Death for Rose:
Deaths March quarter 1947 
Rose Brine age 58    Taunton 7c 339