Charles Walter Duprez Ross and wife Ellen (nee Price) 1901

[BassinghamTerrier]

Following on from my Ann Stanfield & John Meilllear request, here's another for down in the smoke!

Charles Walter Duprez Ross was born in Ipswich, Suffolk in the March Quarter of 1873 to William Swanson Ross and his second wife Ann Eliza McDonald (nee Gray) and I have the following information about him:-

• 3 Apr 1881 • Newson Street, Ipswich St Matthew, Suffolk, England - he is a child aged 8 (correct)
• 5 Apr 1891 • Woodstock House, Hendon, Middlesex, England - he is a butler aged 18 (correct)
• 15 Jun 1897 • St Andrew, Lambeth, England - marriage to ELLEN PRICE (born c1874, daughter of James Price, labourer) - he is a public house manager aged 24 (correct)
• 02 Apr 1911 • Cock Tavern, 58 Old Street, St Luke Glasshouse Yard, London, England - he is a barman aged 31 (should be 38!)
• Mar Q 1927 • Lambeth, London - death aged 54 (correct)

But where is he/they in 1901?
And why is he "single" in 1911? Has Ellen died? If so, why is he not "widowed"? Are they divorced?
I cannot answer any of these questions and as I cannot find Ellen in any census I am not sure where she was born.
I also don't know whether there are any children.

To further complicate matters, there is Charles Dupré Ross (born Haddington, Scotland c1874) floating about and he is NOT connected whatsoever!

Thanks in advance for anything that you might be able to turn up.
MT

[keyboard86]

Hi there is a Charles RASS 26 Occ Barman b Ipswich in Wilmot Street. Bethnal Green?
Census ref RG13/291/30/52
Keyboard86

[BassinghamTerrier]

That sounds very like him! Thanks!!
Right age too.
Any family?

MT

[keyboard86]

That sounds very like him! Thanks!!
Right age?
Any family?

MT

He's Single working at a pub!
Keyboard86

[suzard]

this looks like Ellen
1901 Whittlesey St Lambeth
Ellen Ross Head M 26 Norton Suffolk
May Ross daughter 3 Norton Suffolk
RG13 401 67 18

on marriage they both gave address as Whittlesey St Ellen was age23 her father was James Price occ labourer and one of the witnesses was Charles Price

Suz

[BassinghamTerrier]

this looks like Ellen
1901 Whittlesey St Lambeth
Ellen Ross Head M 26 Norton Suffolk
May Ross daughter 3 Norton Suffolk
RG13 401 67 18

on marriage they both gave address as Whittlesey St Ellen was age23 her father was James Price occ labourer and one of the witnesses was Charles Price

Suz

Thats correct, Suz - they did.
Perhaps I should have mentioned it ...
So why is he "single" in 1901 as well as 1911? I can only guess that for whatever reason, Charles did not want it known at work that he was married. Either that or perhaps his landlord gave the infornation and simply got it wrong, but that seems strange given that all of the other details are correct.

Where is Ellen (and May) in 1911?

Thanks again,
MT

[suzard]

the other witness at the marriage was Eliza Miller -do you know who she was - it seems to me she was the child Ellen May 's aunt.
1911 look ups are not allowed
It may be worth searching the free index to see if Ellen may is with a relative

Suz

[BassinghamTerrier]

Righto, Suz - I'll give it a whirl.
Now that I know where Ellen was born, and with a child in tow, I might well be able to locate her in 1911 myself.
As to the possible sister, Eliza, I don't know; I only discovered this line today so I don't know a lot at all about the Prices.

Cheers!
MT

[suzard]

Righto, Suz - I'll give it a whirl.
Now that I know where Ellen was born, and with a child in tow, I might well be able to locate her in 1911 myself.
As to the possible sister, Eliza, I don't know; I only discovered this line today so I don't know a lot at all about the Prices.

Cheers!
MT

you might try searching free index for Helen Ross

Eliza was definately described Ellen May's aunt -will dig around a little

Suz

Suz