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Edward Bevis - Conundrum
« on: Wednesday 28 December 16 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Edward Bevis married Susanna about 1725. This is based on the birth of their first child Susanna 1725 in Cambridge. I've searched for (a) a date of birth for Edward and the best I can find is December 1684. This seem too early for any marriage to Susanna, unless he married first and was a widower when he married Susanna.
I can find on FreeReg an Edward marrying Susanna Anderson (Widow) on16 June 1715 in Cambridge. Problem is if this is the right connection, why then only having first child in 1725.
Can anyone throw some light on my seemingly impossible puzzle?
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Re: Edward Bevis - Conundrum
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 December 16 12:17 GMT (UK) »
from familysearch film 1818408
Edward Bevis
Christening 08 Sep 1717
Christening Place Cambridge
Father Edward Bevis
Mother Susan

Also on same film number, they could all be children of Edward & Susanna
Edward Bevis
Burial Date   25 Sep 1717
Burial Place   Cambridge

Edward Bevis
burial 20 September 1723

James Bevis
burial    11 October 1723

John Bevis
burial 11 October 1723

Edward Bevis
burial 4 February 1727

Elizabeth Bevis
burial 5 May 1727

Susan/Susanna appears to have died in 1828
Susan Bevis
Burial 16 Mar 1728
Burial Place   Cambridge
Marital Status   Married
Spouse's Name   Bevis



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Re: Edward Bevis - Conundrum
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 December 16 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi and  thanks for the info.
I've browsed through the FS film and have confirmed three children of Edward & Susanna.  The main child is Susanna dob 1725 as she went on to marry Simon Harper in 1743.
So this also confirms for me against previous sources that Susanna 1725 was the child of Edward Bevis and Susanna.
From then on looking into FS, FreeReg and FindMyPast I still cannot establish the birth date, the parents of Edward, not the date of his marriage to Susanna. Any thoughts ???








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Re: Edward Bevis - Conundrum
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 December 16 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Birth dates weren't recorded as a matter of course prior to 1837. Sometimes the vicar added the birth date in the margin of the baptism entry, but probably not in 1700. You'll in all probability have to be satisfied with the date of baptism, if you can find it. I wouldn't rule out the 1684 baptism that you found.
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Re: Edward Bevis - Conundrum
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 December 16 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Film No. 1818408 is for St. Mary Less, Cambridge, and Cambridgeshire Archives have a settlement certificate for Edward Bevis & Family for that parish dated 20 February 1719/1720. 

The certificate itself probably wont add much, but if they also hold the settlement examination papers then that should give further detail on where Edward was born.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j65/
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Edward Bevis - Conundrum
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 December 16 11:38 GMT (UK) »
For - Befordshire Boy and Jomot.

Thanks for your input.

For BedfordshireBoy - I keep looking at the 1684 dob, but the first child (the key one for my research), Susanna was only born 1725, which would make Edward 41 years old. That's why I wonder if he was a widower. Pity that I cannot trace his wife Susanna's maiden name.

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Re: Edward Bevis - Conundrum
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 December 16 11:43 GMT (UK) »
I thought that this was the marriage that you were trying to link to  :-\

I can find on FreeReg an Edward marrying Susanna Anderson (Widow) on16 June 1715 in Cambridge. Problem is if this is the right connection, why then only having first child in 1725.
Can anyone throw some light on my seemingly impossible puzzle?
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Re: Edward Bevis - Conundrum
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 December 16 12:07 GMT (UK) »
For Jomot - What was the purpose of a settlement certificate?

This link gives an overview: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01j66/
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Edward Bevis - Conundrum
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 December 16 13:09 GMT (UK) »
I keep looking at the 1684 dob, but the first child (the key one for my research), Susanna was only born 1725, which would make Edward 41 years old. That's why I wonder if he was a widower. Pity that I cannot trace his wife Susanna's maiden name.

Is there a reason you have discounted the 1717 baptism & burial of Edward provided by Rosie?  I've looked at the images of the 1723 burials and these were of children, so could well have been the children of Edward and Susanna as has been suggested.

The familysearch film is the bishops transcript only and has gaps.  For the timescale the children would likely be born/christened the available years are:
1712-1714
1717-1718
1721-1747

I would suggest obtaining the settlement certificate to see if it names Edwards children at that date, which you could then compare to the burials.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.