George Steele ccardiff

[mulberryhouse40]

Wondering if anyone can help..    I have a George Steele marrying Emma East in 1871 in Bristol. George was the son of Hugh Steele and lived in Cardiff. I know these details are right. However I have just been left a hint on Ancestry which tells me that when George married Emma he was widowed.   Does anyone else have  any info on his previous marriage.

Thanks

Gill

[Rosinish]

The marriage to Emma should say if he was a widower

When in 1871 did they marry?

What was his status on 1871 census if he was married post census?

What year did the 'supposed' 1st wife die?

Was she named?

When/where were they 'supposedly' married?

What was his occupation on each of those marriages?

May be 2 people of the same name?


Annie

[Cas (stallc)]

2nd marriage
George Steele, Widowed
Marriage 22 Nov 1871, Bristol, St Paul, Portland Square, Gloucestershire.
Father Hugh Steele
Spouse Emma East, Single
Spouse's father   Thomas East
Gloucestershire, Bristol Marriage Index 1644-1939

1871 which would fit with George birth date and place of birth.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5B5-ZR8 1871

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCYB-44K marriage on FindMyPast his father Hugh Steele, Hay Merchant. Her father George Bowen, Lab. Both previously unmarried. He was of Llandaff, a coal merchant, her address was with William Steele. Witness George Bowen & Mary Gibbs. Married by licence.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X15P-3C3  child, bapt and death.

Birth   
STEELE, ROBERT  HUGH     Mmn BOWEN     
GRO Reference: 1864  D Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 238

Birth
STEELE, FRANCES  ELIZABETH  Mmn BOWEN     
GRO Reference: 1869  S Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 205

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFH2-X6X Bapt
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCBQ-TW2 image on FindMyPast at Whitchurch. Father occ innkeeper.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFC2-YK1 infant death

Deaths Dec Q 1869 
Steele Frances Elizabeth age 0 Cardiff 11a 126    
              
Deaths Jun Q 1871   
Steele Sarah age 30 Cardiff 11a 242   

 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFH1-TQV Sarah death

Mentioned on link below, scroll to bottom under innkeepers. George Steele, Crown, Llandaff Yard.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llandaff/slaters.1880

George & Emma had a short courtship. After soo much tragedy, glad he found another.

Cas

[mulberryhouse40]

Hi Cas

Thanks for confirming some of details I knew and gave me some more inf that I didn't know. I had the details of the wedding but was surprised that he was widowed. Are you saying that he was married to Bowen before and that all his children were hers?

Thanks

Gill

[mulberryhouse40]

Hi Cas

My great grandmother was Frances Elizabeth Jane Steele  born 1874 in Cardiff... I think that some of George's siblings had similar names to his children

Regards

Gill

[Cas (stallc)]

Hi

No. All the children on census in 1881 are Emma's.

If you check the dates the 2 children he had with Sarah died.  Sarah died in 1871 so cannot be the mother of those in 1881 as they are two young. Check the new index on GRO for Mothers maiden name after 2nd marriage, to confirm it is East.

Yes he renamed the first two very similar names.

Cas

[Annette7]

Cas is saying that he married Sarah Bowen 10/7/1862 Swansea, Glamorgan and had 2 children:

Robert Hugh born 1864 - died Mar.qtr.1870 Cardiff
Frances Elizabeth born 1869 - died Dec.qtr.1869 Cardiff

Wife Sarah died Jun.qtr.1871 Cardiff - must have been shortly after the 1871 census as she was still alive then.

He remarried that same year - 22 Nov. - and had 4 children with 2nd wife Emma:

Robert William b.Dec.qtr.1872
Frances Elizabeth J. b.June qtr.1874
Sarah Anne b.Mar.qtr. 1876 - died Mar.qtr.1878
Ada Hannah b.Sept.qtr.1877

Annette

[mulberryhouse40]

Hi Annette

Thanks both ...got it now

Regards

Gill

[Rosinish]

Good work Caz!

Think the re-naming of deceased children is very significant!

Gill, have you found out who George's mother is?

Annie