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Re: Identification John Hardy/West
« Reply #45 on: Monday 02 January 17 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Beg I did go through and check all the John Wests born in nz within a couple of years of 1888 here and look for their death, looking for one that didnt have a death date which could be him, nothing came from that though.  There is the possibility i guess that he also changed his first name, though that was never discussed only the last name.

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Re: Identification John Hardy/West
« Reply #46 on: Monday 02 January 17 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Beg if that John West is on the cd does that mean his record would be on archway.  I have checked all of those and cannot get a match, either they were deceased under the name of west, or the wrong age and thats allowing for the age to be out by 5 yrs either way.  One of the other things we considered for the name change was he skipped from the army

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Re: Identification John Hardy/West
« Reply #47 on: Monday 02 January 17 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Hello...

Would some kind soul with access to the electoral rolls see if John WEST (Junior) of Pollen Street, Thames is present in the 1920's and later.

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Beg

Hi Beg,

As far as I can see, doesn't appear after 1914 when he was in Kirkwood Street, and a Blacksmith.

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Re: Identification John Hardy/West
« Reply #48 on: Monday 02 January 17 21:59 GMT (UK) »
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Beg I did go through and check all the John Wests born in nz within a couple of years of 1888 here and look for their death, looking for one that didnt have a death date which could be him, nothing came from that though.

Hi again...

Yep I understand. But the method I mentioned finds all births on that day. A person may change their name but not necessarily their birthday.

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If the John WEST I mentioned can't be found on the 1920's electoral rolls (plus if you've money to burn :) ) you might want to ask The Treasury if they know what happened to the son of John WEST, blacksmith who died in 1917.

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The CD mentions that he was enrolled into the Second Reserves i.e held in reserve. This was often the case for men who had children. As the war finished the following year they were not needed, hence no attestation.

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Re: Identification John Hardy/West
« Reply #49 on: Monday 02 January 17 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Beg...Ahh ok thank you

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Re: Identification John Hardy/West
« Reply #50 on: Monday 02 January 17 22:04 GMT (UK) »
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As far as I can see, doesn't appear after 1914 when he was in Kirkwood Street, and a Blacksmith.

Hi KHP...

Thanks. That might be the father, who died in 1917. His son, if born c.1888, should be turning up post-1910. Hope he enrolled.

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I have an undated school record from Waikato for an Emily Rangi BRADSHAW b.1906. Guardian is John WEST (Junior) of Pollen Street, Thames. I don't suppose she is mentioned on your NZSG CD. Would be nice to date that.

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Re: Identification John Hardy/West
« Reply #51 on: Monday 02 January 17 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the school record is there and so is the marriage year  and her full middle name.


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BRADSHAW : Emily Rangi
School :  Waiokaraka Public
Register Number :  1868
Admission Date : 3 Feb 1913
Parent / Guardian : John WEST (Junr)
Address : Pollen St
Birthdate :  27 Mar 1906
Last Day : 17 Dec 1920
Destination : Home

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Re: Identification John Hardy/West
« Reply #52 on: Monday 02 January 17 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks yet again KHP :-)

And for the record here is the WW1 CD listing I mentioned earlier...

Record created August to October 1917

Surname: WEST
Name: John
Category: Second Reserves
Address: Pollen St ,Thames
Occupation: Blacksmith
Classification: D (i.e three children)


Although there is no mention of Senior or Junior I can't see this being the father John WEST senior as, going from the obit found by Minnie, in 1917 he was in his seventies.

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Beg

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Re: Identification John Hardy/West
« Reply #53 on: Monday 02 January 17 22:27 GMT (UK) »
There is a John West,  Thames on the 1920 Electoral Roll...cannot see details, as I dont have a sub