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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 13:56 GMT (UK) »
Bingo - maybe.

Census before the war, 1st Bn East Lancs Regiment in barracks in Woking.  Private William Tyler age 21 born Lambeth.  Ta dah!

1901 William Tyler age 11 Asa Place Lambeth, mother Mary Ann living 10 years later Finsbury Park.

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 14:12 GMT (UK) »
I think that's cracked it MaxD.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 14:17 GMT (UK) »
I'm with Jim1, it gets my vote as well MaxD  :)

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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 14:47 GMT (UK) »
It's interesting to see just how many of the soldiers in the pre-war 1st East Lancs were born in the South East of England. Quite a lot.
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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 15:02 GMT (UK) »
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mother Mary Ann living 10 years later Finsbury Park

I think the family is at 18 Topaz Street, Lambeth, not Finsbury Park. Mary Ann was still there in 1913 per the voters list.

Topaz Street was a short street running between Lollard Street and Fitzalan Street, both of which were on the East side of Lambeth Walk.

http://mapco.net/bart1908/bart35.htm

So there is a good probability that the second sequence in the Pathe film is set in Topaz Street.
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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 15:42 GMT (UK) »
1915 she's at 32 Wake St. ( off Ethelred St. )
1919 there's a William Tyler at 32 Wake St.
Wake St. 1938 according to the people that knew it.
http://www.musgroves.co.uk/wake%20street%20lambeth.htm
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Yes ShaunJ not only does the location add up but I got the wrong Mary Ann Tyler!  (Can't be right all the time  :)

Pretty much clinches it.  Can't wait to hear from Spades re the relative's thoughts.  Mother Mary Ann, daughter Martha and son John.

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It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Jim1 spotted the move to 32 Wake Street by 1915 - so that becomes the likely location for the second sequence.

There's a photo of Wake Street here from 1938 - viewed from the Lambeth Walk end (it ran parallel with Ethelred Street before joining it). It looks right
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Re: Seeking the identity of Sgt. TYLER seen in a short WWI British Pathé film
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 04 January 17 16:28 GMT (UK) »
For once I've beat you to it. Put the link up earlier.
The photo was taken from the Lambeth Rd. end & I reckon he lived about where the car is about 4 houses up from the school.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/