Warwickshire Record Office - Look-up request

[Marigold1]

Dear Sandiep,

Many thanks for your comments.

Regarding the birth of John William Baker on the GRO site not giving the mother's name:
the maiden name of the mother was not listed before the September quarter of 1911, unfortunately.

Marigold

[keyboard86]

Dear Sandiep,

Many thanks for your comments.

Regarding the birth of John William Baker on the GRO site not giving the mother's name:
the maiden name of the mother was not listed before the September quarter of 1911, unfortunately.

Marigold

The New GRO Index supplies the mothers maiden name from 1837 now free to sign up!
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again, of course it could be John Broom who was the serial surname changer, this could be them after 1875 marriage in 1881:-

John Broom 28 occ Bricklayers Labourer b Oakham
Ellen 26 b Oakham
Residing at Johns Court, Oakham
Census Ref RG11/3187/77/40
Keyboard86

[sandiep]

Hi Marigold

the GRO site does now put mothers maiden names on from 1837 to 1915 and very useful it is
you do have to register to see also has ages on the death records

the address for the Baker family in 1901 I read as 23 Mill street not Ashby Square but still in Loughborough so could be them

[JJen]

Dear keyboard86

The Ellen and John W in this group of people look suspiciously like John William Bottrill and his mother but this time using the surname of Rodgers.

I'm beginning to wonder if Ellen was a serial surname changer (depending on who she was living with rather than actually marrying any of the men concerned)!

Marigold

Having looked at the 1901 for the 'Rodgers family' it looks like the most likely candidate for John W. What's interesting is that on Ellen's record in the column 'Relation to Head of family' there is what appears to be a 'M' not wife 

JJ

[sandiep]

find my grave has a photo of John William Bottrill and of his grave

[dobfarm]

You've got unusual poor luck

LDS have St Peter Coventry marriages up to August 1903 and your John William Bottrill married in Dec 1903

Need to register for free or sign in if already registed

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/270642?availability=Family%20History%20Library

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=23661&query=%2Bplace%3A%22England%2C%20Warwickshire%2C%20Coventry%22%20%2Bavailability%3AOnline&subjectsOpen=393464-50

http://www.hunimex.net/warwick/bmd/Coventry/Coventry%20St%20Peter%20Marriages%201896-1903.pdf

[josey]

Edited as posted in haste

[dobfarm]

If anyone happens to be going to the Warwick Record Office in January I would be very grateful for a look-up of the following:

St. Peter's Church, Coventry. Marriage on 28th December 1903. Groom: John William Bottrill. Bride: Sarah Ann Jarram.[/b]

I have been searching high and low in all the usual places for details of John William's father and have found nothing at all. John William also had a mysterious sister called Mrs. Taylor who lived at Oakham, Rutland - she seems to be equally untraceable.

The name of John William's father and notes of witnesses might be crucial.

The record office catalogue entry is:

AccNoDR0723
DR0723A
DR1194
DR1297
TitlePARISH OF ST PETER, COVENTRYDate1839-1997DescriptionRegisters of baptisms, 1841-1993; marriages, 1842-1974; burials, 1841-1931; banns of marriage, 1962-1987; services, 1914-1989; confirmation register, 1945-1978; preachers, 1882-1914; accounts, 1911-1963; vestry minutes, 1845-1920; general account records and cash books, 1951-1985; terrier inventory and log book of additions and alterations to the church, 1935-1997; PCC and DCC minute books, 1955-1979; PCC Treasurer's correspondence, 1951-1968; minutes of committee for building Harnall Church, 1839-1841, service sheet for consecration, 1841; register of West Indian Club, 1957-1958; and miscellaneous papers.LevelCollection

Many thanks.

Marigold

Being realistic ! If a person has spent time, expensive travel and substance meals out cost to go to archive, they will use all their limited time there on their own ancestry and not to waste their costly to attain time on someone else they don't known to save them the cost of a BMD certificate, but if they are of the generous type ? they may help people with pre 1837 parish register/archive lookups. ( unless they are very luck to live across the road from the record office or near)


We don't (more so in winter months ) get many RC members who visit Warwick archives or records office to answer a request on here and could be a long wait - to never. ? Down to luck really but you seem a bit short of that by my last post.

A more realistic approach to get a full result as below.

With you having a known exact date of the marriage entry in St Peters church register in Coventry 1903,, you could send for a  (certified copies of original docs cost £ 15) but uncertified micro film copy of the marriage event from Warwick records office would be much cheaper. (At a rough guess about £4 to £5 copy charge and postage cost )

http://heritage.warwickshire.gov.uk/warwickshire-county-record-office/county-record-office-services/county-record-office-copying-services/

Think GRO are also doing a cheaper uncertified versions of marriages info  for about £6 at the moment or soon

or send for a full marriage certificate from Coventry register office about £10 (by land mail)

Considering a cup of good coffee in town these days is about £3  or an average local return bus fare to town/city  -  In comparison - copies of marriages are so not that expensive.