Help with finding my Great Grandmother

[trish1120]

Death Reg June 1892
BETSY Connor, age 57,  Tynemouth, 10b 171

Marriage Reg Dec 1892 (in Durham)
CONNOR  Michael, Gateshead, 10a 1309
Elizabeth BAKER on same page   

Now I was a bit worried that Michael had a Son Thomas age 23 in 1891 Census then another Thomas born c 1894 with possible 2nd Wife Elizabeth Baker.

I then found this Death Reg;
Sept 1892
THOMAS Connor,  Castle W.   ,10b   157, age 23***

[trish1120]

Death Reg;
MICHAEL Connor, age 76
Sept 1913, Tynemouth, 10b 286

Michael is 74 in 1911

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Maybe someone has access to this Marriage???

Marriage Reg Dec 1892 (in Durham)
CONNOR  Michael, Gateshead, 10a 1309
Elizabeth BAKER on same page   

[Nip122]

Gosh Trish...what site are you finding all this info on....I've been searching for months!!!!

[trish1120]

Using Anc. and FreeBMD, just free sites.

I couldnt find Michael in 1891 so just searched Michael Conn*, no date or place of birth, lived in Dudley, Northumberland.
Found them under Connon!

I have been on Rootchat since 2008 and was very inexperienced when I started searching my Tree. Lots of people on here were wonderful in helping me so now I like to give back.

Keeps the brain cells working also!

Very hot night here in Sydney, 30 degrees at 11.30 pm, so not sure how long my brain will keep working

[trish1120]

Re your PM;

Quote;
Hiya...witnesses were Thomas Connor (spelt with an o as opposed to an e although Michae'ls is quite clearly an e) and Jane Ann Hughes?

It is likely Jane Ann Hughes is related to Michaels 1st Wife (Sister/Mother?)

[Nip122]

Its possible!  Interestingly though, after Mary Ann's husband, William Hall died in 1900 leaving her with 2 young boys, one of which was my Grandfather, she didn't reach out to her own father but divided them between herself and the grandmother, Elizabeth Tinkler.  You would have thought it would have been her own family, but obviously not!

Very jealous re the weather, we are shivering in the UK!  And what a brilliant way to keep the grey cells going although doing this for my Dads side has I'm sure made a few of mine desert me!!!  We always knew so little and now no ones here to answer our questions and despite the Halls being an endless source of frustration...they seem to be agricultural workers who moved around a lot, it is absolutely absorbing!!

[trish1120]

Her Father was elderly with a lot of mouths to feed himself in 1900.
Maybe new Wife and Mary Ann didnt get on.

Now 'Im going to throw another spanner in the works.

The name may have been CONNELL or transcribed as.

Marriage FreeBMD
March 1858, Wolverhampton, 6b 525
Michael CONNELL and Elizabeth HUGHES on same page

1861 Census
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Jane HUGHES, 60, Head, Widow, born Llanraid, Wales
Robert Hughes, 23, Boarder, Mar, Stone Miner, born Oswestry, Shropshire
Mary Ann Hughes, Wife, Mar, born Bloxwich, Staffordshire
Michel CONNELL, 24, Lodger, Mar, Miner, born Liverpool****
Elizabeth Connell,  21, Wife, Mar, born Oswestry, Shropshire****   
John Connell, 1mth, Son, born Wolverhampton

Marriage
(Source FreeREG, www.freereg.org.uk)
28 Feb 1858, St Mathew, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
John CONNELL, Bachelor, Miner, abode Moore St
Elizabeth HUGHES, Spinster, abode Moore St
Fathers JOHN Connell and THOMAS Hughes
Witnesses, Jane Hughes and James Lea
Notes;
Grooms age is full; Grooms father deceased***; Brides age is full; Brides father deceased***

Elizabeth CONNOR** witnesses the Marriage of ROBERT Hughes , Father THOMAS (deceased) to Mary Ann TAYLOR, same Church 25 Oct 1858
So a few months later

So 1861 living in Wolverhampton Reg District

The GRO has a new website which you have to register but searching is free.

So we have;
Birth Reg;
CONNOR, JOHN, Mothers mn HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 440

So somewhere between 1861 Census and 1881 Census John must have died.

Possible one for a JOHN Connor on GRO Death Index age 2 years Reg Newcastle upon Tyne 1863

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Just posting this quickly before I lose it, will explain later

1851 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire;
Thos Pearce, 25
Jane Pearce, 44
Ann Pearce, 4
Rob Hughes, 16
Eliza Hughes, 14
Martha Lloyd, 74
All born Oswestry, Shropshire

Marriages Sep 1843
HUGHES Jane, Oswestry 18   157   
PIERCE Thomas    Oswestry 18 157   
They married one another as only 2 names on page