hurley/ doocey familly

[brigidmac]

Sorry shels couldn't find your tree
I our name spellings and dates must match exactly do you put women under maiden names
which spelling did you use for Ann Hurley and Bartholemew Doosey ??

[brigidmac]

Sorry siann I can't answer those questions til I have time to review
I just wanted to post all the information I have so far

The prosecution was what shels talked about Irish indep +
  family having to hide and change names  due to the war

I think we have to understand the background  to guess what may have happened

I haven't taken in the American details yet..wonder ..why  they went  and come back on those   particular dates ??

[brigidmac]

I'm trying to help and did a lot of searching ...........even created a tree on Ancxy for this search
It's first time I've done any Irish research

I don't have technical KNOW HOW to transfer info

And don't have TIME to copy all out manually

 Siann has found so much already
but we you do NEED a SUMMARY

When I have spare moments I try and add  details  to avoid double searches
Thanks for your encouragement   ROSIn

For Information of anyone   reading this .

OP Shels (Original poster) + I want to find a mutual time to consolidate tree facts and fiction   
   
I'm sure with help from more competent people
She will get to the bottom of this mystery eventually

[shels1]

I am related to Samuel leech and Ann hurley

[brigidmac]

There is a new post about name changing Irish soldier s on beginners board today

Easier identify disguise is to use mothers maiden name for whole family and middle name as first name 
So it's not actually fraud

Good luck with your hunt Shel

Ps I'm not related to any Irish people despite my first name

[brigidmac]

Some interesting answers have been given re why Irish soldiers may have changed names

on Irish soldiers topic below
 
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=772131.new#new

 

[brigidmac]

 copied and abridged from a pm

"The marriage cert and several baptisms give Annie/Hannah name as Harley.
The marriage cert Shels mentions gives her mother as Marie Deasy. If it has the mother's name on it than it can only have come for the church in Sandymount.
 Who got it and when, is it a transcript or a image of the original?
 From what I've read Sandymount records are not online anywhere.
 

The IRA was formed in 1917, the War of Independence was from 1917 to 1922. Johanna Doocey is meant to have changed her name by the time of the 1901 Census. If she did it wasn't anything to do with the IRA. By the time the IRA was formed her name would have been Leech so even if some of her family got on the wrong side of the IRA she wouldn't have needed to change her name.

So unless you can get detailed information on the marriage cert and a fuller explanation as to why the family supposed to have changed it's name you are the road to nowhere."

[shels1]

The IRA was formed in 1917,

yes it was there were to group the IRA and the irb. People say ira when they mean irb. Why i have no idea

[Rosinish]

Hmm,

Is the father's name listed on the marriage of Annie/Hannah Harley & have I missed his name on this thread somewhere?
Mother Marie Deasy

I personally am struggling to find a soundex between Deasy & Doosey/Doocey/Ducey etc. 

For me 'ea' & 'oo/'u' are in no way similar but I'm willing to stand corrected if my thoughts are proven to be wrong 

We need father's name & a marriage for them badly 

Annie