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Re: a 'silent' burial
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 00:18 GMT (UK) »
I've seen ones which had " No ceremony "  or " No ceremony requested" written after. They were usually Catholic.
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Re: a 'silent' burial
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 00:37 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought.

If Lydia's father had only died the previous November could "silent" mean a burial  without the usual bell ringing, hymn singing and so on as the family were still in mourning ?


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Re: a 'silent' burial
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Do we know what a normal burial or funeral of an ordinary person  would have been like at this time?
Might the family have belonged to a religious denomination which disapproved of music or even singing in church? e.g. strict Presbyterian.

I've heard tales of burials of Catholics at this time. Some  bereaved Catholic families used strategies to ensure their deceased relative was buried in consecrated ground, whilst avoiding taking part in what they would have believed to be a heretical religious service. These included:
Requesting " no ceremony"  or not requesting a funeral service. Not sure of the procedure.
Mourners talking loudly throughout the burial, thereby drowning out the clergyman's prayers.
Bringing the corpse to the churchyard, placing it beside the grave, then walking away before the burial service began.
Burying the corpse secretly in the churchyard at night.
Another course of action may have been to attend the burial but turn their backs on the clergyman.




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Re: a 'silent' burial
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 17:21 GMT (UK) »
I have seen transcript burials of children of silent birth. Presumably still birth or dying just after birth.  Except for the earlier birth you have found this, to me, would seem an explanation. Do you think it possible that the older Lydia also died? and this child was to be named after her sister.?

I believe the CofE allowed unbaptised child burials before the 1880 act.


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Re: a 'silent' burial
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 17:46 GMT (UK) »
Wred, "Silent" as in Baby never cried or made a sound at birth.
Sounds logical explanation.
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Re: a 'silent' burial
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Wasn't Lydia older as stated by Mazi, so not a baby?

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Re: a 'silent' burial
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 23:56 GMT (UK) »
yes groom I noted that but thought maybe the older Lydia had died and this child was given her sisters name before unfortunately also dying.

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Re: a 'silent' burial
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 19 January 17 00:08 GMT (UK) »
yes groom I noted that but thought maybe the older Lydia had died and this child was given her sisters name before unfortunately also dying.

It gives her age on burial though as 5yrs 2 months, so it wasn't the burial of a baby.
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Re: a 'silent' burial
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 19 January 17 09:34 GMT (UK) »
It gives her age on burial though as 5yrs 2 months, so it wasn't the burial of a baby.

What does?  I have transcribed (what purports to be) the original parish register, which doesn't give Lydia an age at all.  Or most of the other burials for that matter, in 1782 ?
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