translating an entry on an irish birth record

[chinakay]

Well Josey beat me to it but since I'd SLAVED  over this I thought I'd post it anyway 

The word is Coram and it means before. But if the priest is Bermingham, who's John Mulhall or is that part of the next entry?

[Sinann]

When John got married he would have sent to Summerhill for a letter of freedom, the priest in Summerhill wrote the details of the marriage on John's baptism, when he checked that John was indeed baptised in his church.

It fairly common (but not common enough) to find marriage details on a baptism when the person gets married outside their own parish.


Have a look at the marriage cert in the link I posted.

[chinakay]

Oh, interesting!

[nanny jan]

I learn something everyday on Rootschat!

[Sinann]

It served two purposes, it told the priest performing the marriage that John was baptised and single, and if he attempted to marry again (in an RC church) a second letter of freedom would be rejected due to the note made of the first marriage, unless he could prove he was a widower.

[zhunter71]

wow, thats fabulous people!   thank you to everyone who has deciphered that!   thats very interesting to read!  i think there are 3 baptism records i'd found that have such notes on from this family, and they all have dates mentioned too, so they will be notes about when that person got married as well! i'll check those thank you!!

[zhunter71]

one of the other siblings to John had similar writing which i found to be a wedding date also, but this one on William Mulhall points to a date i cant find any reference to on ancestry in relation to this person, i wondered what this writing says? is it a wedding or his death maybe? ty!!

[conahy calling]

Junctus means joined together so my guess is a marriage to M Graham.

There are some translations of Latin found in church records at following link.

http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/latin-irish-parish-registers.html

[Bookbox]

one of the other siblings to John had similar writing which i found to be a wedding date also, but this one on William Mulhall points to a date i cant find any reference to on ancestry in relation to this person, i wondered what this writing says? is it a wedding or his death maybe? ty!!

It’s the same circumstances as explained in reply #13 – a record annotated with marriage details.

Junctus Mariae Graham 2 die Dec 1933 in eccles(ia) S(anc)ta Mariae Llay
Wrexham, coram Rev. Wilfrido Brodie ...

Married Mary Graham on 2 December 1933 in the church of St Mary Llay, Wrexham, before the Rev. Wilfred Brodie ...

Marriages
Dec Qtr 1933
Graham    Mary J    Mulhall    Wrexham vol 11b page 568
Mulhall    William    Graham    Wrexham vol 11b page 568