George Button where did he die

[panda40]

George Button married Isobel Spent in India 1901 he came from Kenardington Kent and says he is married when he reinlists in 1914.

Lots of mistakes on the other records
Charles G Parsons did not marry Emily Lillian, he married Edith Lillian Ball on second quarter 1911 Strand London 1B 1132.
http://janetandrichardsgenealogy.co.uk/CSM%20G%20or%20C%20Pearson.html
On this site it gives the same wrong names and lists a daughter born in 1908 if you use the new GRO search it gives the mothers maiden name as Campbell.
I can find no marriage between a Charles Parsons and an Emily Lillian.
Edith Lillian is the name given in the address on the findmypast records.
I think the records have got mixed up a long the way and somewhere along the way the two numbers have been mixed up and crossed referenced and used on the same person. It would be interesting to see Charles Pearson sign up papers and compare these to George Buttons.
Food for thought
Panda

[groom]

Even more curious


George Pearson
Birth Place:   Kennardington, Ashford Kent
Residence:   Manor Park, Essex
Death :   1 Jul 1916  France and Flanders
Enlistment Place:   London
Rank:   C.S.M.
Regiment:   Queen's Own (Royal West Kent) Regiment
Battalion:   7th Battalion
Regimental Number:   S/1086
Type of Casualty:   Killed in action

[KGarrad]

Possibly, he was a deserter, who had 2nd thoughts?
Or just ran away from his first wife, for a new life?

[Cas (stallc)]

Hi, just a few thoughts...very much a mystery here.

In the last census Edith b 1887 and her 'daughter' b 1908 are in Kent with her parents, listed as Grandchild, so the child did exist. Tracing the family back Edith was indeed born Ball, around 20yr younger than Charles Pearson. 

I cannot think why the Mmn would be Campbell, unless she adopted a brothers child, or there is an error with transcript on GRO.  Also the GRO does not usually give Mmn if out of wedlock.

On George Button records at top it states he is alias Charles Pearson and enlisted as G Button, so there would not be 2 records to compare in 1914, as it is the same person.  http://www.janetandrichardsgenealogy.co.uk/CSM%20G%20or%20C%20Button.html  Also I do not think the military would make a huge mistake of sending a DC medal to family of the wrong man.

I also think Emily is an error. Edith/Emily Lillian Pearson are at the same address.

It is a difficult one to fathom, but if it was my research, would be very curious.

Why did C Pearson enlist as G Button, did he take his identity, as similar pob, age etc or is the original G Button who enlisted in 1880 really C Pearson, or did George change his name?

Do you have the history of George from birth to death, if there was a mix up the lines/lives would not run completely parallel for 2 separate men.

What happened to the wife he married in India, could this be a different George Button?

As said just a few thoughts..

Cas

[panda40]

George is the youngest brother of my 3x great grandfather. I was filling in blanks in my family tree when I came across the mystery. I only have UK subs for ancestry so I'm unable to view the information on his first marriage. According to an online tree his first wife was born in India. Father's name Vincent Sprent. The marriage is also on family search. I have not located a suitable death for his first wife yet. Reading his 12 year service papers available on findmypast he had quite a time out in India and survived both syphilis and Gonorrhea. She may have died of a disease out there. But that does not explain the name change. He achieved promotion throughout his career. On his original sign up he lists his next of kin including Richard my 3grandfather so I know it's the right family. I might send for the marriage certificate to see who he down as his father.
Regards panda

[Rosinish]

Interesting thread indeed....we love mysteries.

Do you have his original birth cert. to be certain of his parentage?

Could he have been born to another couple & brought up with your 3 x g g/father as their child?

Annie

[groom]

Is this his birth?

Button George   mmn    Boorman    
1867  J Quarter
Tenterden 
Volume 02A  Page 610

If so, it looks as if that was his original name.

[panda40]

Yes that's his birth and all the siblings listed on his army papers are correct so when he originally joined up in 1887 Royal Artillery service number 61591 the information is correct. Can any one read the next of kin information on the 1914 sign up papers where he is listed as Charles Pearson alias George Button as it is hard to make out. I will try to get an image later for everyone to see.
Thanks for all the help
Panda

[groom]

So, if I'm understanding this correctly, at some point between his 1901 marriage and rejoining the army he changed his name from George Button to Charles Pearson and then George Pearson? I wonder if he left his wife, deserted from the army, felt guilty and rejoined at the start of WW1 and then admitted who he really was?

Apologises if you've mentioned it previously, but do you have him in 1911?