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Whines and Shevatt
« on: Sunday 29 January 17 22:50 GMT (UK) »
I'm very much a beginner and struggling again
I have bought my Gt Grandfather's marriage cert. and have some confirmed information but I'm struggling to get further
Gt Grandfather Robert C A Whines (23) married Ellen Shevatt (24) in Islington on 3/10/1891 her father William Shevatt (builders labourer) was deceased & her address was 28 Sutterton St, Islington
1911 Census shows Ellen Shevatt (B: abt 1842) living with brother James Murphy (B: bat 1831) and Robert & Ellen Whines and children still at 28 Sutterton St.

I can't find a reference to William Shevatt and Ellen's marriage, or be sure of any census information on the family in-between

Can anyone help me stop going round in circles please!?

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Re: Whines and Shevatt
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 January 17 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Can you include birthplaces for the people mentioned?  Ellen jnr & Robert were both born Islington as per 1901 entry but where were Ellen snr & James Murphy born?

If James Murphy is Ellen seniors brother then you are presumably looking for a Shevatt/Murphy marriage
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Re: Whines and Shevatt
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 January 17 23:08 GMT (UK) »
From freebmd

Births December qtr 1866 
Ellen Shevatt  Islington    1b   257

GRO maiden name search suggests Ellen was illegitimate - no mothers maiden name shown
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Re: Whines and Shevatt
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 January 17 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Freebmd also has this birth

Births June qtr 1865 
Mary Elizabeth Shevatt  Islington    1b   319

GRO maiden name search suggests Mary was illegitimate - no mothers maiden name shown

Mary Elizabeth died September qtr 1865
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Re: Whines and Shevatt
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 January 17 23:13 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptismal entry 29.11.1871 for a stillborn child - no christian name shown but mother was Ellen Shevatt - no father shown

The entry was for the Islington Workhouse
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Re: Whines and Shevatt
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 January 17 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi the 1871 shows:-

Ellen Shavatt 28 occ Laundress b Ireland
Ellen 4 b Islington
Resiidng at Pierepoint Row, Islington
Census ref RG10/280/54/60
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Re: Whines and Shevatt
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 January 17 23:22 GMT (UK) »
1871 entry here from Family Search

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB6J-B6W
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Re: Whines and Shevatt
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 January 17 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for lack of info.
Re 1911 Cencus, has both Ellen snr and James stating born in Islington
Yes Shevatt / Murphy marriage is what I deduced

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Re: Whines and Shevatt
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 January 17 23:36 GMT (UK) »
I had found several workhouse entries for Ellen Shevatt fitting the dates for mother and daughter but can't be sure if they are all referring to the same family.