Help finding Leonard Edwards (Poole/Dorset) death

[suggsy]

Might be an error listing in the 1939 register as said above, as he is listed on that.

[dawnsh]

As an example, I think there are too many names born 1939 now opened on the 1939 than there will have been death certs supplied since the register went online.

FindMyPast are opening records themselves without death certs where they are finding matches in the death indexes currently available to them.

The record may be open based on this entry in the death index, the 1939 does not specifiy a middle name and the date of birth on the 1939 doesn't match what suggsy has given (look under the red ink notation)

Leonard George Edwards
Birth Date:    6 Mar 1930
Date of Registration:    Jan 1989
Registration district:    Droxford, Hampshire
Volume:    20
Page:    263

There isn't a Leonard G Edwards in the birth index for Mar 1/4 1930

The other forum post mentions you have this cert, apart from the middle name being 'wrong' what else isn't correct?

https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/87458-Edwards-death-record

Information on death certs is informant driven. Who registered this death and in what capacity?

Have you checked the fathers name on the 2001 marriage cert, I wouldn't rule out a marriage just because the ages are wrong.

And as it happens the GRO copy of my marriage cert has the wrong fathers name on it even though my original is correct.

[suggsy]

Thanks Dawn, but you maybe slightly confused.

Leonard is registered in the 1939 register.
But the birth and death record for  you quote above is not the one I'm looking for, my Leonard was born March 1931 and is Leonard Gordon Edwards.

The Charles Edwards you mention above, in another forum refers to his father and not Leonard, which he (Married Rose/Rosie) also in Poole in 1918

There is no marriage record for Leonard Edwards.Also when other members of the family were still alive (Latest 1992), his sister, she said he never married.

Also, I thought that if the father was no longer living at the time of a son's marriage, then the father will not be on the certificate. (Leonard's father dies in the 1960s)

[rosie99]

There is no marriage record for Leonard Edwards.Also when other members of the family were still alive (Latest 1992), his sister, she said he never married.

Did they say he was alive then.

What age was given for the Leonard who married Frances and who was his father.

[dawnsh]

So, have you actually purchased the 1989 death cert for Leonard George Edwards even though you know the middle name is not what you are expecting to see?

The day and month of birth is exactly the same as the date you gave but the year is wrong but as I mentioned there is no birth for this event in the birth index.

And have you purchased the 2001 marriage cert of Leonard G Edwards to Frances in Poole?

From experience, where people distance themselves from their families because of health problems or a breakdown in comunication, the other family members do not know exactly what happens and can make assumptions which may turn out not to be correct.

Unless you have purchased every possible marriage cert from 1947 (when aged 16) to date and death cert which are informant driven and may not agree with other documents, you cannot say that he did or didn't marry or that he hasn't passed away with a different name/date of birth on his death cert.

[suggsy]

Thanks Rosie, unless I misunderstood the above posts, (Unless he is listed in error) then whoever is listed in the 1939 register died before 1991?

I know when his sister died that Leonard was already dead.
Leonard's sister is my father's mother as I stated above, the only Edwards side left is my father and 2 cousins of my father.

If however Leonard is still alive, he must be listed in the 1939 register by error, apparently.



I will check the father's name of the Leonard who married Frances, but I'd say it's still not the one, 'my' Leonard won't be in a fit mental state to marry etc, he was able bodied but the mind was not 100% like that.

[suggsy]

Thanks Dawn yes I have purchased those docs years ago, although frustrating I am not the kind to assume anything,  hence why most of us only ask for help after many years of document/certificate searching.

I have never assumed he or anyone did this or that, I don;t believe hardly anything regarding birth, marriage or death until I see the certificate. I have no trouble distancing myself at all, I've been doing it too many years, hence asking for more help.

Frustrating as it is, but I believe as said a few times and I agree, that there is probably an error in the name when entering into a death for him, even after checking available likely ones.

Even though the birth cert states Leonard Gordon Edwards, again in the death could be an error in the name in the record, but I've checked all listed ones that maybe a possibility, but he must be somewhere lol

Thanks anyway all, I'll keep looking

[dawnsh]

so if 'we' look more closely at the death cert for Leonard George Edwards in 1989, you would have expected the middle name to be Gordon but it is Gerge. You also expected his date of birth to be 6 March 1931 not 1930.

Where did this chap pass away?

Death certs after should state a place of birth? what is listed

What is shown as the deceased's address and occupation? and is a marital status shown.

Who was the informant, their capapcity for being the informant and their address?

what was the cause of death?

Once we have this information we can look further into the person who this death cert belongs to and whether or not they are your person of interest.

[nanny jan]

Thanks Rosie, unless I misunderstood the above posts, (Unless he is listed in error) then whoever is listed in the 1939 register died before 1991?

When the 1939 Register was made available I searched for my maternal grandparents (both died in early 1980s) as I knew I should be able to find them.  I found them and also their daughter, who died in 2002!

My paternal grandfather managed to get his own birthdate completely wrong....day, month and year. so it is worth checking everything.