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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 03 November 19 16:22 GMT (UK) »
I doubt whether you’ll glean much from taking it out of the mount other than, by taking a whole box out of their mounts, you should be able to confirm the order in which the photographs were taken - 35mm film has frame numbers pre-exposed (along with the film type) on the edges.

Some of the processing labs also printed processing dates on the slide mounts. How accurately this could date the photograph is difficult to say as some people left part used film in their cameras for months or even years!

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 03 November 19 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately not. I inherited a few thousand photos, slides and negatives- most of which have some notation attached but there are a couple of hundred that were loose in the bottom of a box. These are the ones I am trawling through slowly to try and identify.
Bone - Leeds/ Tempsford, Bedfordshire
Overment - Norfolk
Skillings - Norfolk
Woodhouse - Kingston upon Hull
Fell - East Yorks
Hulse - Repton, Derbyshire
Cooper - Chapel en le Frith

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #74 on: Sunday 03 November 19 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Also, I believe the bus in the photo to be a Samuel Ledgard bus but not sure if that helps anyone

My memory of Samuel Ledgard buses (ee, that dates me!) is that they were two-tone blue, though online photos suggest some were blue and cream - quite similar, apparently, to the nearby Bradford Corporation Transport buses. If the slide is faded, I could possibly also see this as two-tone green, which was the livery of Leeds City Transport.

There are photos of Samuel Ledgard buses at http://www.sct61.org.uk/index/operator/lg  Ours has a straight line below the windows, and no decorative flourish on the side, and bearing in mind the suggestion that it's a Duple body, that seemed to me to leave just two contenders: LRW377 and GVA289. Pictures here:

http://www.sct61.org.uk/lglrw377

http://www.sct61.org.uk/lglrw377a

http://www.sct61.org.uk/lggva289

There's a fleet list at http://www.petergould.co.uk/local_transport_history/fleetlists/ledgard1.htm and according to this, LRW377 was in service 1956-1960 and GVA289 1957-1967.

I can't vouch for the accuracy of any of these sites - and there are quite a few others available. We also need to remember that although Ledgards was a Leeds-based company, they could of course have run excursions to other locations.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #75 on: Friday 15 July 22 16:26 BST (UK) »
It looks like the photograph was taken at Barnsley Road, South Elmsall, West Yorkshire.
It seems that this could have been where the bus depot was located. Maybe the little wooden building on the side of Dewhurst Butchers is a bus shelter!

The pub with the monument/gate pier was the Chequers Inn. It appears it’s no longer a pub and is a domestic dwelling now.

I haven’t been able to identify the name of the shop next door to Dewhurst’s. It would be great if someone can.

https://tinyurl.com/4wh6d9ep
https://tinyurl.com/2z3ruke2
https://tinyurl.com/y32brd3h
https://tinyurl.com/36rs7djt
https://tinyurl.com/bdnh7wtk
https://tinyurl.com/2p8bvw4y
https://tinyurl.com/4nrdbbcu
https://tinyurl.com/bdh7ek37

South Elmsall had a cycling team. I wonder if it was them on the photograph?
https://www.elmsallrc.co.uk/history

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Carroll - Monmouthshire/Glamorganshire/Cork
Hooley - Tattenhall, Cheshire
Lloyd - Gresford, Denbighshire
Platt - Wrexham, Denbighshire
Sullivan- Monmouthshire/Glamorganshire/Cork


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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #76 on: Friday 15 July 22 17:26 BST (UK) »
Trish - once more I am absolutely in awe of your skill and tenacity in tracking down these locations. I thought I hadn't seen much from you recently, so it's now apparent what you've been up to.

I totally agree with your identification, and what I can offer is a possible name for the shop next to Dewhursts: on your 7th link (https://tinyurl.com/4nrdbbcu), if you scroll down just below the map, the next link (Repository Page) takes you to

https://www.europeana.eu/en/item/2048087/ProvidedCHO_Wakefield_Council_WAKGM___1987_96

where the image seems to be of slightly better quality. After copying and pasting this into an image editor I was able to blow it up so that the name on the shop looks like Rainforth. I haven't tried checking that out yet, though.

Anyway, once again, very well done  :) :) :) ;D ;D ;D
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #77 on: Friday 15 July 22 17:35 BST (UK) »
Well done Trish. Do you think it’s more likely that the wooden “shack” was an office for the ticket inspectors? - gives them somewhere to keep dry and watch the comings and goings.

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #78 on: Friday 15 July 22 17:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Arthurk ;). Yes, it’s definitely Rainforths! The photograph on the link you posted is so much clearer, thanks.

Thanks Ray.  :) You could be right about  the shack being for ticket inspectors. I think it was something to do with buses rather than Dewhursts.

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Carroll - Monmouthshire/Glamorganshire/Cork
Hooley - Tattenhall, Cheshire
Lloyd - Gresford, Denbighshire
Platt - Wrexham, Denbighshire
Sullivan- Monmouthshire/Glamorganshire/Cork

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #79 on: Friday 15 July 22 17:52 BST (UK) »
After copying and pasting this into an image editor I was able to blow it up so that the name on the shop looks like Rainforth. I haven't tried checking that out yet, though.

Super job, Trish!

Good catch, ArthurK!  There are ads in the 1933 papers for meccano sets and Hornby trains, for sale at the W.A. Rainforth post office in South Elmsall.   
The 1939 for W. A. Rainforth calls him a sub postmaster newsagent stationary dealer.

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #80 on: Friday 15 July 22 19:35 BST (UK) »
Well done, Trish! I am more than impressed..!   :o

That one only took 5 years - there is hope for some of the other "Where am I" photos yet!  ;D
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