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Haddow family Lanarkshire
« on: Friday 10 February 17 04:06 GMT (UK) »
Hello, can anyone help resolve an issue I have with a Haddow branch in Lanarkshire?  My direct ancestor is Thomas Haddow b May 1836 in Dunsyre to David Haddow and Janet Todd. He married Janet Salmond in 1861, had two daughters Janet b 1867 and Jane 1869.  Janet Haddow nee Salmond died 1870, and Jane aged 2 and Thomas both died in 1871.  Scotlandspeople says David and Janet had 3 sons, John b 1832 Carnwath, Robert 1841 Cambusnethan and Thomas 1836 in Dunsyre.  However Thomas' death seems to have been registered by his brother 'James' (hard to read but seems to be what it says).  I am trying to find marriages, deaths etc of the known brothers Robert and John, but I am getting nowhere fast and spending lots of Scotlandspeople credits.  One Ancestry tree has a brother James to my Thomas being married to a Mary Tweedie.  This tree says James died in 1889, so I purchased the death cert.  It confirms Mary Tweedie as wife, but says this James' parents were James Haddow and Margaret Greenshields.  Can anyone help find my Robert and John's marriages and/or deaths and 'James' if there is indeed meant to be a James. 
Thank you in advance (PS the top of Thomas' death cert says High Church, Glasgow)
Anne
Scotland: Stewart, Smith, Edward, Barron, Macdonald, Sinclair, Millar/Miller, Ross, Salmon(d), Cuthel, Cuthill, Macalister, McAlaster, McAllister, Forsyth, Haddow, Todd, Aitken, Gartshore, Mackie, Strang
England: Lucas, Parkinson, Nicholls
Ireland: Keys, McAuliffe, Achilles, Fenner/Fannin, Halpin
Germany: Achilles, Bartels, Barthold, Pralow, Schreiber, Kloth, Cords

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Re: Haddow family Lanarkshire
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 February 17 07:59 GMT (UK) »
I am not sure that the certificate does say James. The capital letter at the start does not look like the J in Janet. Could it be Thomas?
Interestingly it does look as if David and Janet did have a son James ( age 7 in 1841) and also a William ( age 3 in 1841) in addition to the other children you have named. The 1841 census does not show relationships but from the way the children are listed in the census ( for Hartfield, Cambusnethan ) the supposition would be that they are all children of David and Janet. I can't see an obvious match for James in any of the later census ( perhaps he died young).
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Re: Haddow family Lanarkshire
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 February 17 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Isobel.  I hadn't known what it said, so had posted a query ages ago and it was suggested by many it was James - so had gone with that but must admit I found it hard to see James written there.  Thomas is the one who died, and it seems to say 'brother' so doubt there is another living brother Thomas.  William 11 and Robert 9 are with David in the 1851 census.  At that stage he is with his new 'wife' Grace (Greece in some transcriptions).  I believe I have Thomas in the 1851 census working for the Wilkie family and in 1861 census as a ploughman at Shawhead farm, which is mentioned on his marriage proclamation in 1866.  Maybe it has to stay a mystery as to what happened to his brothers and if they had families.
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Scotland: Stewart, Smith, Edward, Barron, Macdonald, Sinclair, Millar/Miller, Ross, Salmon(d), Cuthel, Cuthill, Macalister, McAlaster, McAllister, Forsyth, Haddow, Todd, Aitken, Gartshore, Mackie, Strang
England: Lucas, Parkinson, Nicholls
Ireland: Keys, McAuliffe, Achilles, Fenner/Fannin, Halpin
Germany: Achilles, Bartels, Barthold, Pralow, Schreiber, Kloth, Cords

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Re: Haddow family Lanarkshire
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 February 17 14:22 GMT (UK) »
The J in Janet was written by registrar and James signed the certificate that is why they are different.

Usual residence was Viewpark, Uddingston but he died in Royal Infirmary which is why death is registered in 'High Church' district


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Re: Haddow family Lanarkshire
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 February 17 15:55 GMT (UK) »
This could be his brother William in 1881

Name:   William Haddow

Est birth year:   abt 1840

Spouse's name :   Christina Haddow

born:   Wishaw, Lanarkshire
Registration Number:   639
Registration district:   Dalziel
Civil Parish:   Dalziel
County:   Lanarkshire
Address:   15 Brown Place

Occupation:   Railway Engine Driver


William Haddow   41
Christina Haddow   30
James Haddow   9
Jeanie Haddow   7
Maggie Haddow   5
John Haddow   2
William Haddow   3 Mo

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Re: Haddow family Lanarkshire
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 February 17 19:17 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage

PATERSON
CHRISTINA
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Re: Haddow family Lanarkshire
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 February 17 20:51 GMT (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTL6-B2Q

Mmm, could be a different Janet, but if same, did whoever transcribed this record make a mistake with father's forename?
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Re: Haddow family Lanarkshire
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 February 17 21:08 GMT (UK) »
Given David was in Dalserf in 1851, and adults sometimes give their place of birth as somewhere they remember staying as a child/young person, rather than where actually born, you could look at the James Haddow, engine driver, in Dalziel at 1871, born Dalserf. The William suggested in an earlier post was also an engine driver.

This James could also be the one found working on a farm at Avondale in 1851.

In Lesmahagow by 1881, which identifies wife as a Margaret Ferguson as her father is with them. Still in Lesmahagow at 1891.
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Re: Haddow family Lanarkshire
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 February 17 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Motherwell Times 28th July 1894:

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Mr James Haddow, formerly of Motherwell, and one of the oldest engine-drivers on the Caledonian Railway, died at Lesmahagow last week
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