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Re: Westminster workhouse lookup
« Reply #27 on: Monday 13 February 17 17:39 GMT (UK) »
And as for the Mary Ann and Basil Sandys in Stepney WH - whoever they were -
Admitted 13 June 1840
Belong to Mile End
Destitute
Brought by Police H 29

Brought by Police!  I wonder what Basil senior was doing at the time?  This does not look good  >:(
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« Reply #28 on: Monday 13 February 17 17:58 GMT (UK) »
On a slight tangent - there is a birth Jun qtr 1843 Westminster for Elizabeth Sandys.  Does anyone have access to Catholic records to see if she was Basil's daughter?

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« Reply #29 on: Monday 13 February 17 18:03 GMT (UK) »
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On a slight tangent - there is a birth Jun qtr 1843 Westminster for Elizabeth Sandys.

You can now check for mmn on the GRO website using the freebmd references

Mmn was Rose

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
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« Reply #30 on: Monday 13 February 17 18:13 GMT (UK) »
You can now check for mmn on the GRO website using the freebmd references

I do feel silly!  I had heard something about this, but didn't think to try it.
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Re: Westminster workhouse lookup
« Reply #31 on: Monday 13 February 17 19:29 GMT (UK) »
A possibility on the FindMyPast index?

Sands    Basil    —    —    1826    Middlesex, London, Old Bailey Court Records 1674-1913

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18261207-233

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« Reply #32 on: Monday 13 February 17 20:33 GMT (UK) »
A possibility on the FindMyPast index?

Sands    Basil    —    —    1826    Middlesex, London, Old Bailey Court Records 1674-1913

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18261207-233

One of my favourite websites.  Some of the early cases are extraordinary.  :o

Basil was a witness in this trial, working in the Coach and Horses Inn, Shadwell at the time.  This was his last known job before joining the Excise in 1827.  Around this time he started having children.
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« Reply #33 on: Monday 13 February 17 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Now I have found my reading glasses (honestly!) and can see the thing properly
Exam 36454 is dated 1 May 1856
But has been updated later. Hence the discrepancy in Basil's age
His date of birth is given as 28 Aug 1800

Another female child was born 6 May 1862. Seems to say she was Louise
But GRO index says she was registered as Julia
June 1862 St. Giles 1b 413
Sandys, Julia       
mother Birmingham 

So we are looking at two entries, May 1856 (admitted 1st, discharged 17th)
and May 1862 (admitted 5th, discharged 16th)
Cause of distress - Labour

An address for 1856 is given
Address in 1862 was 8 Lascelles Place
Basil was a Labourer earning 12/- per week
Weekly Rent was 1/6

Previously had lived at
14 Endell Street
21 Endell Street
another address is there

Man states in 1826 he took a House No 47 Essex St. St Pancras, at £22 a yr, rented it only 9 months
Born in County of Cork, parents natives of Ireland + never in England

So Catherine has gone into the workhouse twice to give birth, and they have taken more info from Basil. That's how I read it.
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Re: Westminster workhouse lookup
« Reply #34 on: Monday 13 February 17 22:19 GMT (UK) »
I don't know what information you already have.

On FamilySearch there is the death of Margaret Wilson who died in New York in 1917 aged 87, born in London and parents are recorded as Basil Sandys and Catherine Dillon. 

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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 14 February 17 00:26 GMT (UK) »
All praise to the workhouse admin who noted the information - and even more praise to the wonderful Rootschattters who uncover it!

This is amazing.
Philip

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