I am trying to locate my grandmother's birth certificate Alice Edwards

[groom]

I'm a little put out that you have only acknowledged Carol's reply when several of us spent hours looking up information for you, including how we think the name Sali was obtained? Can you see those replies?

[carol8353]

I'm a little put out that you have only acknowledged Carol's reply when several of us spent hours looking up information for you, including how we think the name Sali was obtained? Can you see those replies?

I found that odd too Groom, although I clicked on this thread yesterday and only got page one,which of course didn't show a whole page of replies........gremlins?

[DerekD44]

Many apologies to you all...I'm just trying to get my head around things,it's a bit daunting trying to get back to everyone

[groom]

I'm wondering whether the Alice Amelia Edmonds born 1905  Bristol and baptised 21st July is a red herring. She is the daughter of Albert and Harriet Edmonds and not Richard and Edith.

It is possible that the same Alice Amelia Edmonds was a teacher in 1932 at Cadoxton Infants school, in Barry South Wales, which would tie up with a marriage to Mohamet Sali in 1932.

The puzzle is that the word Sali is written against Alice Amelia Williams in 1939, suggesting that was an alternative name. 

Who were the witnesses on the 1934 marriage certificate, Derek? Were there any family members?

[carol8353]

Right.......Carol8353........yes this record is correct!!!
Her father's name is Richard Albert Edwards and,he was a Lorry driver.
On the 1934 wedding certificate he was alive but,on the other one ( 1967 ) he was deceased.

The marriage of Alice A Williams to Mr Davids was in the Sept 1/4 of 1960 in Cardiff.

Not 1967 as you state above. Could that be the date of his death though?

Name:    John S Davids
Birth Date:    abt 1899
Date of Registration:    Dec 1967
Age at Death:    68
Registration district:    Cardiff
Inferred County:    Glamorganshire
Volume:    8b
Page:    208

[[Ray]]

Trying to straighten out some of the confusion . . . . .

Reply #21
"She was Alice A on both her marriages....."

 
Reply #24
"Both her marriages were quoted by Derek in the original post.
 
I was simply pointing out that from FreeBMD
 
she is listed as Amelia A Edwards on her marriage to Jonathan Williams in 1934
 
and as Amelia A Williams when she married John Davids in 1960."
 

 
 
 Just goes to prove that refs must be quoted to stop confusion =
 
Marr 1934 Dec Newport M. 11a 588 Jonathan WILLIAMS / Alice A EDWARDS
 
 Marr 1960 Sep Cardiff 8b 474 John S DAVIDS / Alice A Williams




 

[[Ray]]

Mr Sali shows as "Widowed" in 1939 Cardiff.

[[Ray]]

Derek

Who registered her death? ie Who knew about the name SALI?

Any chance of FULL transcripts of both marriage certs?
Especially witnesses / addresses etc.

Ta!
R

[groom]

Okay, I'm going to suggest a theory here - quite willing to be shot down though!

She was born Alice Amelia EDMONDs and baptised 21st July 1905 Gloucester, daughter of Albert and Harriet Edmonds. Albert is a labourer

The family can be found in the 1911 census in Bristol.

In 1932 Alice Amelia Edmonds is a teacher in Barry, South Wales.

In Sept quarter of 1932, she marries Mohamet Sali in Cardiff as Edmonds.

At some point between 1932 and 1934 the marriage breaks down, perhaps he went back to sea, as I think there are seaman records for him.

Alice Amelia meets Jonathan Williams and they (according to Derek's tree) have two children. They decide to marry but because she is still married to Sali, she changes her name slightly to EDWARDS and changes her parents' names.

Although she appears as Williams in 1939, the name Sali is written next to this as legally she is still married to him.

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