Harris family, Merthyr Tydfil 1851

[Deirdre784]

Don't know why I couldn't find David in 1861, wasn't looking for him with Ann. Looks like Ann has died then, which explains the non-Roberts births of Ann and David. Rushing out to church now, will be back on this later. Thanks again 😀 

[MarMnkly]

Deirdre
If Ann has died, it must have been between 1851 and 1861 census as still with wife Ann in 1851, so David and Ann should both be Ann's (nee Roberts) children?

[Deirdre784]

Deirdre
If Ann has died, it must have been between 1851 and 1861 census as still with wife Ann in 1851, so David and Ann should both be Ann's (nee Roberts) children?

Of course 

[stitchwitch]

Bound to be a red herring, but there is this:
HARRIS, ANN                           GRO Ref.: 1846  S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION  Volume 26  Page 427
HARRIS, DAVID        HARRIS  GRO Ref.: 1851  S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL               Volume 26  Page 477

Does "your" David (father) have any sisters? That might have been a bit ... haphazard in life?

Stitch

[Deirdre784]

Bound to be a red herring, but there is this:
HARRIS, ANN                           GRO Ref.: 1846  S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION  Volume 26  Page 427
HARRIS, DAVID        HARRIS  GRO Ref.: 1851  S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL               Volume 26  Page 477

Does "your" David (father) have any sisters? That might have been a bit ... haphazard in life?

Stitch

Thanks Stitch, he had 3 I know of ... Ann, Margaret and Harriot

But my Ann was married in 1866 with David, shoemaker as her father.

I guess it's possible that none of the children's births were registered, and that the Elizabeth and Sarah belonged to other Harris families. Haven't yet found any baptisms to help either. Will look for the later children born to the 2nd marriage, to Margaret. 

[osprey]

1891 census
4 Toop's Court, Taff St, Merthyr Tydfil RG12/4441 folio 43 pg 3
David Harris head widower 77 shoemaker b. Carmarthenshire
Jane dau 24 washerwoman b. Merthyr Tydfil
Janet A grand dau 4 b. Merthyr Tydfil

1881 6 Twynyrodyn RG11/5311 folio 66 pg 1
David Harris head mar 64 shoemaker b. Carmarthen
Marg^t wife 60 b. Neath

[Deirdre784]

Thanks osprey so your 1841 find was spot on too, giving me David's parents, and Mar's marriage find gave me Ann's father. Great progress thanks to you both.

Possible burial for David's first wife Ann, in Merthyr on 3 June 1851.

I wonder where 'Anglesey' came from?

[osprey]

possible enumerator error? That page in 1851 was a bit messy.

 

[Deirdre784]

possible enumerator error? That page in 1851 was a bit messy.

 

Just a bit! Even so, David was born either in Carmarthen or Merthyr!