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Re: Hart's Private Hotel - South Island, New Zealand
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 07:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Printer

Had been going to ask if grandparents had perhaps gone their separate ways.
Still digging for you  ... there may be additional information to come.

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Re: Hart's Private Hotel - South Island, New Zealand
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 07:58 BST (UK) »
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
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Re: Hart's Private Hotel - South Island, New Zealand
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 08:34 BST (UK) »
Lu & minniehaha,

Thank you again. Wasn't aware of the newspaper piece. I have been looking too for old photos of Milton, but none about that time. The Milton Information Centre & Museum could be a good source to try, but they don't yet have a web page or email address for researching. Now that I have an actual place to look.

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Lowther - Northumberland
Fox - Kent & New Zealand
Hart - Birmingham & New Zealand
Paget - Stanton Prior, Somerset & New Zealand
Absalom - Northumberland, England
Absalom - Victoria, NSW, Australia & New Zealand
Barrass - Northumberland, England
Gregory - Durham/Northumberland
Clark - Comrie, Perthshire & Stornoway, & Dunedin NZ.
Marchant - New Zealand
Potter - Birmingham/New Zealand
Mummery - Kent
McRae - Ayrshire, NZ
Bruce - Northumberland & Ross, NZ.
Wanless - Northumberland

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Re: Hart's Private Hotel - South Island, New Zealand
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 08:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Printer

Here's a link to Milton / Tokomairiro Historical Society  >

http://www.museumsaotearoa.org.nz/museums-directory/22817/details

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Re: Hart's Private Hotel - South Island, New Zealand
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 08:59 BST (UK) »
Despite looking at other resources, that 1938 e/roll listing was the only info I found for Margaret HART
which showed involvement in a "hotel".

Hopefully the Milton Historical Society can help (there is an email address at the link I gave you earlier.)

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Re: Hart's Private Hotel - South Island, New Zealand
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 09:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Lu,

Many thanks for your help and success in this mission!

I will post any further information that I might get back. Regards.

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Lowther - Northumberland
Fox - Kent & New Zealand
Hart - Birmingham & New Zealand
Paget - Stanton Prior, Somerset & New Zealand
Absalom - Northumberland, England
Absalom - Victoria, NSW, Australia & New Zealand
Barrass - Northumberland, England
Gregory - Durham/Northumberland
Clark - Comrie, Perthshire & Stornoway, & Dunedin NZ.
Marchant - New Zealand
Potter - Birmingham/New Zealand
Mummery - Kent
McRae - Ayrshire, NZ
Bruce - Northumberland & Ross, NZ.
Wanless - Northumberland

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Re: Hart's Private Hotel - South Island, New Zealand
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 10:10 BST (UK) »
The 1933 NZ Postal Directory for Milton lists an "E Hart, mtr prop", the 1936 Directory an "Edwd Hart, mtr prop." Both Directories list a "Gray's Private Hotel." Suspect mtr prop might mean a taxi owner. Had a quick look at the ERs but couldn't find him.

Alan
Living in Christchurch, New Zealand.

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Re: Hart's Private Hotel - South Island, New Zealand
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 05 April 17 11:19 BST (UK) »
Hello Alan,

Thank you. The plot thickens! Plenty to check now, another name enters the picture, although not aware of an family with initial E/Edward. Regards.

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Lowther - Northumberland
Fox - Kent & New Zealand
Hart - Birmingham & New Zealand
Paget - Stanton Prior, Somerset & New Zealand
Absalom - Northumberland, England
Absalom - Victoria, NSW, Australia & New Zealand
Barrass - Northumberland, England
Gregory - Durham/Northumberland
Clark - Comrie, Perthshire & Stornoway, & Dunedin NZ.
Marchant - New Zealand
Potter - Birmingham/New Zealand
Mummery - Kent
McRae - Ayrshire, NZ
Bruce - Northumberland & Ross, NZ.
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Re: Hart's Private Hotel - South Island, New Zealand
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 06 April 17 01:52 BST (UK) »
The 1933 NZ Postal Directory for Milton lists an "E Hart, mtr prop", the 1936 Directory an "Edwd Hart, mtr prop." Both Directories list a "Gray's Private Hotel." Suspect mtr prop might mean a taxi owner. Had a quick look at the ERs but couldn't find him.

Alan

Hi again Printer

Some further info so that you can eliminate the above "E. HART - mtr prop" who resided for a time at Milton.

This man was also known as "Edward George Vassie HART" (and while there is an affidavit on his probate file referring to the fact he was Edward HART a.k.a. Edward G.V. HART, it's not made entirely clear which of the two was his "real" name.)   However he died at Dunedin in 1953 aged 50 years (bc 1903) and the cemetery records states he was born in Scotland.
http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search?recordid=23862&type=Burial

He seems to have had two women "friends" the first of whom was Annie Gillies HART (married) who was with him in 1928 at Dunedin and in 1931 at Milton where they were both residing at the Commercial Hotel.  She's later at Oamaru 1935/1938 ... and her death record shows she was some 13 years older than him ?    He's still on Clutha roll 1935 and 1938 - motor proprietor but address just shown as Milton. 
[Gray's Private Hotel, Milton,  according to NZPO listings was operated by Ms Elnr J.GRAY (prob. Mrs Eleanor Jane GRAY as per electoral roll listings ).

In the Will of Edward G.V. HART he bequeaths his Ford V8 de Luxe Taxi and balance of cash at National Bank, to Hazel COPPERWRIGHT* otherwise known as Mrs HART ..
A correction to her surname appears on file ... as *COPPERWAITE.
Seems Hazel COPPERWAITE was born England (Herts or Beds.) in 1922 - returned there after his death - and died at Peterborough, Northants. in 2005.

You'll see there is a plaque (Service # 14085) for Edward George Vassie HART's Dunedin burial.
And, Edward HART (Service # 14085)  appears on New Zealand WWII Nominal Rolls (1940-41) - residing at 433 George Street, Dunedin.  His next-of-Kin is shown as Miss (or Mrs) Sarah KNOX (cousin) of 313 (or 315 ?) King Street.  [Sarah Jane KNOX (55 years) d. 1942  - bur. Dunedin -- d/o Jane (nee HAMILTON) and Alexander CRAIG.]

I'm guessing your HART's were from Birmingham, so wouldn't think above Edward HART is related ?

    ~  Lu