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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #450 on: Saturday 29 April 17 01:59 BST (UK) »
Hopefully of interest ....
http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/BasicSearch.aspx
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Eccs Files
Gordon BLAIR  Series 4486 Item 281260
Julia BLAIR, Item 2815283
Land Agreement 23/9/1863-22/2/1864
Gordon BLAIR as Purchaser …. Series 1215, Item 1959983
These files would also be on my 'must have' list if this family were on my family tree. 2 x Probate and 1 x Land

Qld State Archives website has “How can we help you?” page too.   I think it would be good to check these files for Gordon and Julia BLAIR.    Probate files should contain proof of death, the will, beneficiaries, administrative details and if Qld Probate files are similar to NSW ones, can even contain vital family history documents **, including hand sketches of family trees used during the hearings for proving a grant of probate.   The land file dates from September 1863, and it may have a clear signature for Gordon ....   

**ADD .... fingers crossed, as I wonder if there's baptism records there for Henry Gordon and James William, the sons of Gordon and Julia BLAIR....

JM

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #451 on: Saturday 29 April 17 02:09 BST (UK) »
1841

Hermaan Schwabe 40

Hmm, i.e. born c1800

According to the 1855 birth, Jane was 23 yrs i.e. born 1832 (32 yr age difference)!!

Jane/Janet Schwabe/Sthornlie in 1851 aged 2 making Jane only 17 yrs old........was she taken advantage of  ??? Possibly 'with child' aged 16?

I wonder if Jane was Servant/Housekeeper to the family before 1851?

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #452 on: Saturday 29 April 17 03:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the recap and information JM.

I will see how the week pans out - might try to get there Thursday or Friday.

Yes. Fingers crossed.  :)

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #453 on: Saturday 29 April 17 03:51 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have a reflection ;D

Georgina Lorimer BAMBER had a number of children and one, whom we have  we have discussed, had the same given name as her father. Henry  Gordon born in 1882.

It seems to me that if Gordon BLAIR had really deserted Georgina's mother, Jane (NORVAL), leaving her to struggle alone to survive, the BAMBERs would not have respected him enough to give his name to one of their children.

Just odd ::)

Henry Gordon was born  twenty years after the alleged departure of Georgina's father.
 


Great to hear you can help out with the look up Ruskie ;D
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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #454 on: Saturday 29 April 17 04:24 BST (UK) »
Ruskie,

That should be an interesting day. Hope you find some interesting info.  ;D

I wonder if you would be allowed to photograph/download info. to usb/cd etc?


Sue,

It has occurred to me that Georgina may only have been told her father had died, given that Jane is claiming to be a widow i.e. Georgina would have had no idea possibly of the circumstances & of her father being alive & well in Oz  :-\

Annie
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #455 on: Saturday 29 April 17 05:25 BST (UK) »
And of course, Jane herself may not have claimed to be a widow, as  I think it would have been the head of the household that provided info to the enumerator in 1861.   

I am still trying to figure out how Jane Drummond SCHAWBE knew in November 1874, when marrying, of her own mum's occupation and subsequent marriage to Gordon BLAIR and even knew his occupation and knew that her own father was deceased (but the clergy did not record "Gordon BLAIR, Law Clerk, residing in Queensland, Australia;D  ;D  ;D  if only  ::)  ::)  ).   

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #456 on: Saturday 29 April 17 05:31 BST (UK) »
Jane herself may not have claimed to be a widow, as  I think it would have been the head of the household that provided info to the enumerator in 1861.   

I am still trying to figure out how Jane Drummond SCHAWBE knew in November 1874, when marrying, of her own mum's occupation and subsequent marriage to Gordon BLAIR and even knew his occupation and knew that her own father was deceased (but the clergy did not record "Gordon BLAIR, Law Clerk, residing in Queensland, Australia;D  ;D  ;D  if only  ::)  ::)  ).   

JM

JM,

"but the clergy did not record "Gordon BLAIR, Law Clerk"

Because he was GorDon Blair  ;D

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #457 on: Saturday 29 April 17 05:38 BST (UK) »
Oh &.....

Henry Schwabe happened to die in 1874 too....

I wonder what date he died & was this when Jane decided to tell young Jane that he was her 'supposed' father?

I wish this was my tree right now, DNA would be on the cards looking for Schwabe descendants  ;D

It's so easy to get really interested in certain threads, gives me a buzz  :P

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #458 on: Saturday 29 April 17 07:21 BST (UK) »
Ruskie,

That should be an interesting day. Hope you find some interesting info.  ;D

I wonder if you would be allowed to photograph/download info. to usb/cd etc.

Annie

I use a scanner app on my phone so it's as simple as taking a photo of each page.  :)