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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #18 on: Friday 07 April 17 13:05 BST (UK) »
Still no further with information on Nellie Smith but I would think this was the death for their son Clifford birth date 13/7/1914 ( information from army records ) died September 1982 Manchester
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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #19 on: Friday 07 April 17 13:52 BST (UK) »
I think Nellie Laycock lived in Shipley for a number of years, listed on the ER'S  with possibly a son John, checked 1925-1949

Steve, have you checked on 1939 register for Harry Laycock?

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There is a Nellie Laycock with a John Laycock 1924/1925 living in a caravan at Pudding Hall Farm Township of Shipley

1928/1929 Hut Residence  ?..Is this the same record you found

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #20 on: Friday 07 April 17 14:09 BST (UK) »
Yes Rosie but supposition so far , she did have a son John


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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #21 on: Friday 07 April 17 14:26 BST (UK) »
Did wonder about this record 1901 census  Victoria Buildings  District Calverley St Wilfred Yorkshire
Joseph Horton age 53 b Cambridgeshire
Mary A Horton age 47 b Lancashire
Nellie Smith age 8 b Leeds visitor

Piece 4186 Folio 16 page 24

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #22 on: Friday 07 April 17 16:34 BST (UK) »
Perhaps Steve you can let us know the information when you receive the certificates

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #23 on: Friday 07 April 17 18:05 BST (UK) »
Be interesting to see what information is on the second marriage for Nellie Smith ?

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #24 on: Friday 07 April 17 22:49 BST (UK) »
This is the marriage for Nellie Smith age 19 spinster address Calverley.. father James William Smith no occupation given ...
Spouse Harry Laycock age 20 ..12,Sydney Street Farsley ( Hand Loom Weaver) father Edward Laycock (bricklayer )  Witnesses Joseph William Laycock and Susan Wilkinson
Marriage date 13/3/1912 Farsley St John Yorkshire

Just to throw this into the pot
Joseph William  and Susan Wilkinson married March qtr. 1913 N Bierley

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 08 April 17 16:34 BST (UK) »
I have thought for a while that Nellie may have married bigamously as I have not been able to find a death notification for Harry Laycock, or a divorce.  Looking at his war record there is memo that shows that Nellie had been unfaithful by 1916 to someone called Wormald whilst he was in the army.

I say that I have been looking for a death notice for Harry since on Nellie's marriage certificate to Robert Batty Threlfall on 31/3/1920 she is classed as a widow aged 26 years.  She also married under the name of Smith and not Laycock.

But on the birth certificate of her son Robert in 1929 she is called Nellie Threlfall formerly Laycock.

I shall have a look at all the thoughts that folks have been kind enough to suggest.

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Re: Nellie Smith b1894
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 08 April 17 16:40 BST (UK) »
Yes also on the births for her other children she uses the maiden name Laycock  ???  Does it say the name of her father on her marriage to Robert Threfall ...Is it the same name James William ?

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