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Re: William Horace Wickens
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 August 17 22:51 BST (UK) »
That is an interesting one.

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Re: William Horace Wickens
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 August 17 00:23 BST (UK) »
First, many thanks for your attention to a decades and longstanding problem: my grand uncle.
No, Horace was never in Canada. Only my grandfather and father were. And, I've wondered about the 1937 death, but someone on RootsChat once said it was Henry not Horace.

Wow! Jonw65   
I've wondered at that idea for years. Long story short: in 1885 I bumped into a fellow of the same last name in a youth hostel card mix up. Referring to my research, he said that he'd been in South Africa and saw the name here and there. Appreciative, I shrugged it off going to Reading County Office to look at its Parish record books. I never came across [though little searched] the name in my 1991 S.A. visit there.

Your dates, Jon, do fit in very well. W.H. left the Masons as a marine engineer in 1899 and disappears. The will in 1902 naming him doesn't mean that he lives in England, does it. Maybe he came home for the death. She made the will out the month earlier. Your idea is intriguing.

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Re: William Horace Wickens
« Reply #11 on: Friday 18 August 17 07:01 BST (UK) »
Fanny Elizabeth's maiden name was Moses:

http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20170818075923080C4068&DN=00000110
Added: Bother, wrong link, and did not check immediately

A possible reference also:

http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20170818080211080C4068

death?
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm30ddf0?20170818080647080C4068&DN=00000002

Added:
Sorry those links have timed out, will transcribe on new post when I have time.

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Re: William Horace Wickens
« Reply #12 on: Friday 18 August 17 16:12 BST (UK) »
I've wondered about the 1937 death, but someone on RootsChat once said it was Henry not Horace.

You have discounted the Dec 1937 one with no middle name - probate 1938
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=594341.
I can't see any sign of this one being discounted

You have had other threads on WHW
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=584504.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=588248.
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Re: William Horace Wickens
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 August 17 20:06 BST (UK) »
Pietermaritzburg Archives Repository NAAIRS
DEPOT     NAB       Source MJPW   Type  Leer   Volume No.109  System 01  Reference  LW 803/1904   Part 1                                                       
W H Wickens  First Engineer, Richard King, apples for fourteen days leave of Absence from first proximo   Starting 1904   Ending 1904           
Remarks   PCD78/1904 CSO1371/1904.       

Pietermaritzburg Archives Repository  NAAIRS
DEPOT     NAB         Source NT   Type Leer  Volume No 111  System 01                                                                                                                       
Reference T1052/1906       Part 1                                                 
Description:  Port Captain W H Wickens   First Engineering 'Richard King'  Off duty sick from 26th Instant, Medical Certificate Put Up. Death of W H Wickens                                                                     
   Starting 1906  Ending 1906                                                       
Remarks  CSO3100/1906 R AND H535/1906 AG883/1906 PCD287/1906.


Database:   Pietermaritzburg Archives Repository NAAIRS
DEPOT     NAB         Source MSCE   Type  Leer   Volume No 0       System 01                                                     
Reference  26/10   Part  1    Starting 1906    Ending 1906                                                 
Description  Wickens  William Horace  (S/S   Fanny Elizabeth - Born Moses)                                                                   

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Re: William Horace Wickens
« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 August 17 20:48 BST (UK) »
Great finds, chempat.
The 1899 marriage record said that the widowed Fanny Elizabeth Fell was 31. But could she have been older?
There's a Fanny Elizabeth Moses in Southampton in the 1871 census, age 10, born France. Mother Frances.
In 1881 in Poplar, Fanny E Moses, 20, born France, parents William R + Fanny B
(William Robert Moses + Frances Bridget Casey married in 1853 in Southampton)

In 1882 at All Saints Poplar, Fanny Moses married Thomas Reidy.
Then there is a marriage at St Ann Limehouse, 1886, Frederick William Fell + Fanny Elizabeth Reidy (father William Robert Moses)
In 1891 in Shoreditch, Fanny E Fell, 29, born France, wife of Frederick W Fell. 31. Son Frederick W, 3 (but he was registered 1887 Islington, with mmn Reidy)
Not finding them later!

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Re: William Horace Wickens
« Reply #15 on: Friday 18 August 17 20:55 BST (UK) »
Although there is a death in Islington in 1908 of a Frederick William Fell, age 48.
Buried at Abney Park Cemetery, 12 November. Of 64 Essex Road, Islington.
That's gone and spoilt it.

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Re: William Horace Wickens
« Reply #16 on: Friday 18 August 17 20:59 BST (UK) »
That's gone and spoilt it.

Maybe not.
Divorce 1893 (Wife's petition)
Appellant: Fanny Elizabeth Fell.
Respondent: Frederick William Fell.
TNA (Kew) ref: J 77/522/15934


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Re: William Horace Wickens
« Reply #17 on: Friday 18 August 17 21:01 BST (UK) »
Just about to post that divorce.

Her Father, William Robert Moses was a mariner.