Sarah May Coldham..Born London 1877?

[carol8353]

Stapler, are you going to get that birth cert of Sarah Holahan that Louisa Maud found yesterday?

It will prove to us all that she was on the right track.

Don't know if you've ever ordered certs before but they cost £9-25 from the official GRO site and they post anywhere in the world for that price.

GRO Reference: 1876  Sept Quarter in ST GILES  Volume 1B  Page 591 

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Carol

[stapler40]

Hello Carol

yes, I sent for the certificate yesterday. Probably take a week or so.

Cheers

[louisa maud]

Good suggestion Carol, I am 100% sure it is her, I do believe Stapler hails from Canada, it would be worth getting

1881 no joy for any of them, ah well!

LM

[carol8353]

Hello Carol

yes, I sent for the certificate yesterday. Probably take a week or so.

Cheers

 

Can't wait to hear if it's the right one !

[louisa maud]

We  await news Stapler, please keep us up to date with what you receive, good luck

LM

[louisa maud]

Sorry Carol, ditto'd your remarks

LM

[louisa maud]

https://personal.uwaterloo.ca/marj/genealogy/ships2.html

This appears to be ships logs 1884, so far I cannot find any names but there are a lot of children on her shipped out, pity we can't find out more

Louisa Maud

[jonw65]

There's a school record for a Henry Brown, born 18 April 1867, admitted to St Andrew's School, Holborn, in August 1876
Parent or Guardian - Elizabeth
address 38 Baldwins ? Holborn
(last school St Alban's Holborn)
left May 1877 No Reason

With so many Henry Browns about, it may or may not be the right one

The Holborn workhouse record said that Emma Brown was sent to Hoxton House, which was an asylum, 9 February 1876.
The Holborn Index to the Register of Lunatics has Emma transferred to Banstead, 28 August 1877. Name/address of relatives column has been left blank for her (sadly)
The Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912, has her entry to Banstead in 1877, and also has the date of discharge, 24 Sep 25 (but it's not a death)

[jonw65]

I am wondering if there really will be anything on the birth certificate that isn't on the record in the St Giles + St George Birth Book that is online (LMA ref P82/GIS/165)
Albeit the name is spelt Holaham rather than Holahan, and indexed as such by ancestry
In the book maiden names of married mothers are given, so it says

date of birth - June 28th
name - Sarah
sex - Female
father's name - John Holaham
mother's name - Elizabeth Brown
(then baptism)
occupation - Labourer

In other words, much in the same format as a birth certificate
Most likely the Master of the Workhouse would have registered the birth.
The GRO ref is, Sep qtr 1876, 1b 591 -
which looks like being the first page of births that quarter for a particular sub district in St Giles (the previous page 590, had only one name indexed rather than the usual ten, according to FreeBMD)
All seven St Giles workhouse births, from June 17th 1876 (Edward Bartholomew) to June 30th 1876 (Ada Morgan) have that same 1b 591 GRO reference.
The next birth in the workhouse book is on 5 July (Ruth Bond, GRO ref 1b 593)

So in very early July 1876, the registrar came down to the workhouse (unless the master went to him with his book?) and registered seven births.
Seems unlikely in any case that John Coldham would have got his own name so drastically wrong. Perhaps the details from the workhouse book were directly transposed into the registrar's book.