Veronica Jones, Nebo, Penygroes, Woking, Guildford.

[despair]

Looking backwards,if the KIA 1916 Richard Jones is not the father of Veronica,then the one at 7 Tram Road in the last census remains the best candidate.It seems to me likely that the occupant of No.9 in 1939 is him(including the occupation of the "deceased" Richard as per Veronica's marriage certificate),despite some other minor differences.This implies he died between 1939 and 1943.There appears at least one decent candidate on FreeBMD aged 61 in 1940,possibly matching one on NorthWalesBMD under Llandwrog.

Regards
Roger

[Colchester]

I had a sudden realisation that if Carol Rice was adopted it would be entered in the birth register so was in the process of ordering from GRO and decided to do a death search. I've no idea why nothing has shown up previously elsewhere but I had a result.....

Carol Rice, QD 1944 (age 3 years but probably a transcription error, likely 3 months), Caernarvon, Vol 11B, p403.

I've ordered the death certificate so hopefully it will help with the Jones family search.

The story becomes yet more tragic!

Regards,

Colin

[rosie99]

I have just checked the typed copy of the index page that can be viewed on freebmd and it does not show on there 
Thank goodness we have the new GRO index to fall back on.  Interesting that the death is Caernarvon reg district    That index does not differentiate between weeks/months or years so as you say 3 months.

She certainly had more than her fair share of tragedy 

[jonw65]

Carol Rick on the original GRO index.

[Colchester]

...and it's on the North Wales BMD!

sub district Llandwrog, ref: CAED3/43/99

 

[Colchester]

I now have the death certificate  for Carol. Tragic; but it confirms our thoughts and provides more clues. May I scan and attach?

[MarMnkly]

Hi Colin, I have seen parts of certificates posted  - often to help read reason for death, an address or name.
Margaret

[despair]

I have seen full certificates posted,but to be sure there is a "Contact Support" red button at the bottom right of the home page.

Regards
Roger

[Colchester]

Best to be safe! Transcribes..

Died 23 December 1944   AT 11 Rhosdulyn, Nebo, LLanllyfni, Gwyrfrai R.D.
Carol Rice, F, 3 months
of 11 Copes Road, St. John's, Woking, Surrey. Daughter of Kenneth Melvin Rice, L/sergeant L10399 Canadian Artillery (farmer) (deceased).
C.o.d. Convulsions due to Gastro Intestinal disturbance.

NOW THE GOOD BIT! Informant: John R. Jones, uncle, 4 Llenar (or Llevar) Terrace, Pontllyfni, Clynnog.

I can't search 1939 for the facts (too expensive for me) but we're on the right track!

It proves that the address of the sister holds the answer (GO ROGER)

I haven't had any response from the holder of the 'Williams' tree so I can't substantiate contact.

As it stands I have...

Richard Jones...Father

Offspring...Mary Ann Jones b. 1902, Olwen Veronica/ Veronica Olwen or ? Jones born 1916 (or 22, or 23 depending on the document), John R.

That 1939 search on address would be so useful!

Thanks team!