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Lewin St Neots 1860 ish
« on: Sunday 14 May 17 17:10 BST (UK) »
Hi all, Looking for 1st husband of Eliza Pryke she went on to marry stephen Luff but had two girls from her first marriage (My Nan) who was christened Ada Isobel LEWIN I know Ada was in service at the age of 14 and amongst the other servants there was a similar aged girl there with her mothers surname PRYKE any help would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Lewin St Neots 1860 ish
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 May 17 17:27 BST (UK) »
Have  you checked for a Lewin / Pryke  marriage on freebmd?

Is there a bith reg for Ada Isobel?  If so - buying a copy of the birth cert will show  a fathers name
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Re: Lewin St Neots 1860 ish
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 May 17 17:32 BST (UK) »
I have the birth cert but says mother aged 22 WIDOW, Ada was born in 1187
Thank you for looking
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Re: Lewin St Neots 1860 ish
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 May 17 17:48 BST (UK) »
Family in 1891, couple married in 1890. Ethel was born after marriage and registered Luff so Stephens child

1891- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4YD8-SZM

Marriage to Luff https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DCJ-6NV

Cannot understand if married or widowed why would not the father be included on the 1887 BC for Ada?

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Lewin St Neots 1860 ish
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 May 17 17:50 BST (UK) »
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Ada was born in 1187

Should read 1887.  Seems strange no fathers name shown on Ada's birth cert if there was a marriage

To save us looking for info you already have - please post the following:

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but had two girls from her first marriage (My Nan)

Who was the other child?  Born before or after Ada?

Where and when was Eliza born?

When she married Luff in 1890 - is she shown as a widow?  Does it confirm her fathers name was Pryke?

Have you looked for Lewin deaths on freebmd pre-1890?

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Re: Lewin St Neots 1860 ish
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 May 17 18:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you very, very much
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Re: Lewin St Neots 1860 ish
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 May 17 19:56 BST (UK) »
Perfectly reasonable questions from Carole.
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
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Re: Lewin St Neots 1860 ish
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 May 17 09:18 BST (UK) »
Going back with family this seems to fit with parents of Eliza, certs would confirm.

1861- Bythorn, Thrapston, Northamptonshire (image is Pryke)
George Boyke Head Unmarried, 38, Bricklayer Employing 1 Labourer, Barton Mills, Suffolk
Emma Swan, Servant, Unmarried, 17   Lowick, Northamptonshire

Marriages Jun Q 1861   
Pryke    George        Thrapston    3b   275    
SWAN    Emma        Thrapston    3b   275    

Bapt of children on familysearch. GRO gives Mmn as SWANN for Eliza, not checked others.
   
PRYKE, ELIZA    Mmn   SWANN     
GRO Reference: 1867  S Quarter in THRAPSTON  Volume 03B  Page 176

1871 for family https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFFS-K3D

1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-8PBB

Likely Death: PRYKE, GEORGE    Age   59     
GRO Reference: 1881  S Quarter in ST NEOTS  Volume 03B  Page 155

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Lewin St Neots 1860 ish
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 May 17 09:24 BST (UK) »
Remarriage of Emma (Eliza Mother)

Marriages Jun Q 1883   Same page
Pettit    Abraham        St. Neot's    3b   483    
PRYKE    Emma        St Neots    3b   483   

1891 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4Y65-TN2 this has Kate Pryke (the same Kate as with Ada Lewin in 1901)

She is down as Grandau to Emma, so looks likely Ada & Kate were cousins, probable father of Kate was George Jnr, think Eliza too young to be her parent.

Possible birth reg of Kate https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2XV9-G8M if you wish to confirm parent.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland