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Re: Lizzie LEA and Eliz.RULE -J.MOFFAT 'Wives' 1913
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 27 May 17 22:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks Millie ..eliminations always help avoid fruitless searches

I don't know when and where Elizabeth Moffat died she disappeared

According to family story

Joseph Moffat could not marry Lizzie Lea mother of his next three children 1913-1918 because he was still married and
when he died 1924  they had to leave the family home because the first family' " threw them out "

But this could easily be the legitimate children ...legally if he.d made no will would they have to prove his wife had died before they could inherit ?

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Re: Lizzie LEA and Eliz.RULE -J.MOFFAT 'Wives' 1913
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 11 September 18 13:39 BST (UK) »
I've been in touch with a descendant of Joseph Moffat s first family

So here's some new infomration

His grandfather Joe Moffatt junior married Susannah Dowdell
"curiously according to what is written alongside the 1911 census Susannah Dowdell lived at 113 Conway St. although the census was taken at 20 Cecil Road Prenton where she is listed as a domestic servant. So perhaps that's where she met my grandfather."



Lizzie Lea lived 10 mins walking distance away in 1911 with her mother and JONES half siblings 

She had daughter Grace in 1912 so it seems likely that Joseph s children.Joe aged 21  lily aged 16 would have known about this second family .



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Re: Lizzie LEA and Eliz.RULE -J.MOFFAT 'Wives' 1913
« Reply #38 on: Friday 23 November 18 18:52 GMT (UK) »
. Addressez for Lizzie Lea  and her Moffat children

Census's, 1891 115 Gladstone St.

, 1901 Market St.

 1911  238 Cleveland St.

 All around the same area within  10 minutes walk of
 113 Conway St.

1911 census eldest Moffat children from first marriage recorded at 113 Conway St.
Susannah Dowdell  future wife of eldest son Jo recorded as living there too on  a separate  census .

I know the 2nd family felt deprived of a house to live in .
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Re: Lizzie LEA and Eliz.RULE -J.MOFFAT 'Wives' 1913
« Reply #39 on: Friday 23 November 18 19:15 GMT (UK) »
I've been told
Lowther Street where the Dowdell family  lived in 1891 was next along from Gladstone street

The RULE family also lived very near in Price St

It would be good to walkaline these streets to see how close all these familes were
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Re: Lizzie LEA and Eliz.RULE -J.MOFFAT 'Wives' 1913
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 16 September 20 17:24 BST (UK) »
Having researched other relatives who disappeared ..I wonder what are rhe chances she has been hidden away in an asylum somewhere

Some asylum residents were there for a long time .
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