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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 May 17 13:59 BST (UK) »

 In 1861 they are living in Great Boughton, 10 Foxbrook Street, William is a Shoemaker & local preacher.

William Dodd b Cheshire 1821
Elizabeth Dodd b Hoole 1824
Elizah Dodd - (Elijah) b1857 Cheshire
Kezia Dodd b 1848 Cheshire
Matthew H Dodd b Cheshire 1851
Alexander W Dodd b wolverhampton 1852
John Dodd b wolverhampton 1856
The above post looks like a "copy and paste" which isn't allowed!

Here are the details from that Wales 1871 census:

New household at same address:
William Dadd 50 boarder 50  Manager bn Chester St John
Elizabeth 47 wife bn Hoole
Matthew 21 baker bn Hoole
William 18 shoemaker bn Wolverhampton
John 15 bn Wolverhampton


I am having difficulties tracking a lot of the family, such as Alexander & Keziah.


I'm wondering if Alexander William Dodd born c1852 Wolverhampton is using his middle name William

possible marriage and death

1881 West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended
Alexander W DODD   
Jane CARRUTHERS (perhaps she's related to Alfred John Dodd's wife Hannah Susannah Carruthers)   
FreeBMD shows Alexander's middle name as William

Possible death Alexander
1946 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVC9-94X4

Marriage of Elijah Dodd
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHQQ-NXC

1871c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJ9-PHT Elijah with gd/mother Mary Meacock
1881c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-FJYC
1891c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-FJYC

there's a marriage entry 1872 Sheffield for a
Keziah Dodd
male names on same page
William Fletcher Gardener
George Wilson

and one in 1913 Alverstoke to a G Simpson

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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 May 17 14:13 BST (UK) »

 In 1861 they are living in Great Boughton, 10 Foxbrook Street, William is a Shoemaker & local preacher.

William Dodd b Cheshire 1821
Elizabeth Dodd b Hoole 1824
Elizah Dodd - (Elijah) b1857 Cheshire
Kezia Dodd b 1848 Cheshire
Matthew H Dodd b Cheshire 1851
Alexander W Dodd b wolverhampton 1852
John Dodd b wolverhampton 1856
The above post looks like a "copy and paste" which isn't allowed!

Here are the details from that Wales 1871 census:

New household at same address:
William Dadd 50 boarder 50  Manager bn Chester St John
Elizabeth 47 wife bn Hoole
Matthew 21 baker bn Hoole
William 18 shoemaker bn Wolverhampton
John 15 bn Wolverhampton


I am having difficulties tracking a lot of the family, such as Alexander & Keziah.


I'm wondering if Alexander William Dodd born c1852 Wolverhampton is using his middle name William

possible marriage and death

1881 West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended
Alexander W DODD   
Jane CARRUTHERS (perhaps she's related to Alfred John Dodd's wife Hannah Susannah Carruthers)   
FreeBMD shows Alexander's middle name as William

Possible death Alexander
1946 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVC9-94X4

Marriage of Elijah Dodd
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHQQ-NXC

Is it any wonder we struggle to find these? Ancestry has Mary transcribed as Mary Mencock & Elijah as Elizan!  Thak you for finding these.

1871c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJ9-PHT Elijah with gd/mother Mary Meacock
1881c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-FJYC
1891c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-FJYC

there's a marriage entry 1872 Sheffield for a
Keziah Dodd
male names on same page
William Fletcher Gardener
George Wilson

and one in 1913 Alverstoke to a G Simpson
Byrne, Butterfield, Gilbert, Sutcliffe, Furey, Alderson, Warham, to name a few!

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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 May 17 14:16 BST (UK) »
Is this the William & Martha Dodd you are referring too?

1891c Yorkshire, William boot & shoe maker, Martha, Jessie Dodd
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:765J-VT2

1901c William shoe maker & boot, Methodist local preacher, Martha & Jessie
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PW-657

2 Apr 1904 St Luke Eccleshill, , Yorkshire
Jessie Dodd 19 father William shoemaker
Albert John Davis 22 clerk f William Henry deceased
Witnessed by William Dodd & Ethel Culley
Res 3 Ashfield Place Moorside

Will see if I can spot William DODD on 1881 census



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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #12 on: Friday 26 May 17 14:29 BST (UK) »
Is this the William & Martha Dodd you are referring too?

1891c Yorkshire, William boot & shoe maker, Martha, Jessie Dodd
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:765J-VT2

1901c William shoe maker & boot, Methodist local preacher, Martha & Jessie
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9PW-657

2 Apr 1904 St Luke Eccleshill, , Yorkshire
Jessie Dodd 19 father William shoemaker
Albert John Davis 22 clerk f William Henry deceased
Witnessed by William Dodd & Ethel Culley
Res 3 Ashfield Place Moorside

Will see if I can spot William DODD on 1881 census

Yes this is them.
Byrne, Butterfield, Gilbert, Sutcliffe, Furey, Alderson, Warham, to name a few!


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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #13 on: Friday 26 May 17 14:47 BST (UK) »

 In 1861 they are living in Great Boughton, 10 Foxbrook Street, William is a Shoemaker & local preacher.

William Dodd b Cheshire 1821
Elizabeth Dodd b Hoole 1824
Elizah Dodd - (Elijah) b1857 Cheshire
Kezia Dodd b 1848 Cheshire
Matthew H Dodd b Cheshire 1851
Alexander W Dodd b wolverhampton 1852
John Dodd b wolverhampton 1856
The above post looks like a "copy and paste" which isn't allowed!

Here are the details from that Wales 1871 census:

New household at same address:
William Dadd 50 boarder 50  Manager bn Chester St John
Elizabeth 47 wife bn Hoole
Matthew 21 baker bn Hoole
William 18 shoemaker bn Wolverhampton
John 15 bn Wolverhampton


I am having difficulties tracking a lot of the family, such as Alexander & Keziah.


I'm wondering if Alexander William Dodd born c1852 Wolverhampton is using his middle name William

possible marriage and death

1881 West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended
Alexander W DODD   
Jane CARRUTHERS (perhaps she's related to Alfred John Dodd's wife Hannah Susannah Carruthers)   
FreeBMD shows Alexander's middle name as William  Yes they appear to be sisters, mother Hannah & father Robert

Possible death Alexander
1946 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVC9-94X4 This isn't my chap it's a Alexander Wilson Dodd age 0


Marriage of Elijah Dodd
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHQQ-NXC

1871c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJ9-PHT Elijah with gd/mother Mary Meacock
1881c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-FJYC
1891c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-FJYC

there's a marriage entry 1872 Sheffield for a
Keziah Dodd
male names on same page
William Fletcher Gardener
George Wilson

and one in 1913 Alverstoke to a G Simpson
Byrne, Butterfield, Gilbert, Sutcliffe, Furey, Alderson, Warham, to name a few!

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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #14 on: Friday 26 May 17 15:37 BST (UK) »

I am not sure where they are in 1881 but by 1885 William has married Martha Ward

25 Jan 1886 St Augustine, Pendlebury, Lancashire

William Dodd - 59 Chemist Widower of Pendlebury
Father: John Dodd, Labourer

Martha Ward - 25 Domestic Servant Spinster of Pendlebury Groom's
Father: Henry Ward, Blacksmith.

& as seen Elizabeth is living with her son Matthew in 1891.

Very confused am i!! 

As i said there may be 2 families i'm mixing up but i actually think William is telling Porkies! I wonder if the clues lie in 1881?



Sorry not having much luck locating William Dodd on 1881 census  ???

I wondered if he may have been with Martha Dodd nee Ward 1891/1901 census give her born c1861 Leeds

This might be Martha Ward age 20 a housemaid in Yorkshire, Vicarage Village
Head Henry Deck Vicar of Hampsthwaite
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-CYHM

Perhaps William is living close by  :-\
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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #15 on: Friday 26 May 17 15:45 BST (UK) »
There's this William Dodd age 55 but wrong pob his occupation is Church Clerk And Shoemaker and he's noted as a widow living Black Notley, Essex  :-\

1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27D-FPPW

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just noticed he's on 1871 census so not your William   :(
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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #16 on: Friday 26 May 17 17:09 BST (UK) »


just noticed he's on 1871 census so not your William   :(

Or is that evidence that there are two William's?  One who is a shoemaker and preacher and marries the Martha in later life, and the other who is a chemical manufacturer and was married to Elizabeth and dies before 1891?
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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #17 on: Friday 26 May 17 17:23 BST (UK) »
Have we had the marriage?

12 March 1843 at St John's Chester

William Dodd 22 shoemaker, Seaville Street, father John Dodd, labourer
Elizabeth Meacock, 19 1/4 , servant St John's Street, father Thomas Meacock, coachman

witnesses John Cotgreave and Emma Ellis
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